Talk:St Bede's College, Christchurch
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Avoiding mention of alumni from other schools is probably a good rule of thumb. There may be exceptions, however. In this college's case, historically, the associations with one or two other colleges have been exceptionally strong, and continue to the present day.
It is probably a better idea to start a separate page for St Pats, and put them there. St Pats (Silverstream at least) is easily a prominent enough school to warrant its own page. Ham21 00:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Re: insertion of the phrase the only other being St Thomas of Canterbury College, which was established in 1959:
The original claim is very specific, and easily verifiable.
The previous ammended statement does not make sense. If St Bede's is the oldest B, then C cannot be the only other oldest B. There can only be one 'oldest' B. If St Bede's and C (etc) share the same relevant date, it might be possible to state that they are the two oldest Bs (plural). But that is a separate claim. No-one is making that claim here. The entry concerns St. Bede's College.
Further, the previous ammended statement is false. St Thomas College of Canterbury College, Christchurch (NZ) does not provide for Boarders. It is a day-pupil college only. I do not disagree that it is a Catholic College, or that it is in NZ's South Island.
But so are so many others...
Finally, there is no particular association between St. Bede's College and St. Thomas' College that requires that the latter be mentioned on a page for St Bede's College. It is probably better to start a separate page for St Thomas of Canterbury College, and put any comments there (St Thomas of Canterbury College has not got its own Wikipedia entry yet. Perhaps someone might like to start one?).
That is fair enough. You're right - my statement did not make sense (I had meant to say that the only other catholic boys school in the South Island was St Thomas' and therefore that St Bede's was indeed the oldest). I never actually claimed that St Thomas' took boarders - the statement you referred to above attached to the claim about St Bedes being the oldest catholic boys school in the South Island, which of course it is. I merely meant it to show that there is actually only one other Catholic boys school in the south island. It wasn't meant to show that St Thomas' was the same age as I clearly wrote that it was established in 1959.
In addition, and correct me if I am wrong, St Bede's is actually the ONLY catholic boys boarding school in the south island, in which case it seems odd to say it is the oldest. I have changed 'oldest' to 'only' but left the rest because you're right, my edit did not make syntactical sense. Ham21 02:22, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. No, you are right. It makes sense now. MTL.
St. Kevin's College is a Christian Brothers-run institution (with Dominican Sisters now, also) and this Congregation or Order is distinct from the Society of Mary (St. Bede's College etc) in several important ways. For example, the former was founded in Ireland; the latter, in France. Further, St. Kevin's College is co-educational. St. Bede's College remains single-sex. The schools' histories are different. They do, however, share the same religious denomination. But this is not a strong enough analogy to include it in this post about St. Bede's College, Christchurch. St. Kevin's College properly belongs in a cohort of NZ secondary schools that includes Kavanagh College, St Peter's College, and St Thomas of Canterbury College.
what happend to the nationalities of the St Bede's College staff.I thought it looked kind of cool.PS Mr Liam Hegarty lived in Ireland, but he is a New Zealander, whoever said he was Irish.
Super 14 Rugby or Canterbury Wizard (cricket) representation, while notable provincial or largely domestic personal sporting achievements, are perhaps not of sufficiently distinguished stature yet (in New Zealand or Australia, much less internationally) to warrant inclusion in a section for distinguished Old Boys/Alumni. More distinguished achievements might be New Zealand All Black Representation or New Zealand Cricket Team Representation, for example. It is possible that any of the individuals named could go on to such achieve such distinction. Until then, however, their significant achievements must necessarily remain more obscure to the general public. Great sporting achievements by College Aumni/Old Boys should not go unnoted, however. Perhaps a separate section is required? Most New Zealand readers and certainly many more international visitors should understand the distinction inherent in New Zealand All Black or New Zealand Cricket Team-status sporting representation.
