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There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven: a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot, a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build, a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain, a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to throw away, a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak, a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace. What does the worker gain from his toil? I have seen the burden God has laid on men. He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end. - Ecclesiastes 3:1-11




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[edit] Talk page

I just need help.Bold textLots of It.Please.Alchemistjikan 19:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Told you

See what I mean.Alchemistjikan 19:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, with the Bold typing - three apostrophes starts bold, and three more ends it. anything you need? ST47Talk 19:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

I readily understand that one might be upset over his encountering strident opposition at his RfA, especially where he thinks such opposition to be without merit or improperly to focus on insignificant edits that tend to present an inaccurate picture of him, and I even understand that one might react viscerally upon his appreciating that his RfA will not succeed, but I think this to be bad form; not only, to be sure, is it less-than-civil, but it also impugns the reasoning skills and good faith of those opposing, none of whom seems to have opposed vengefully. I sincerely hope that such withdrawal was offered in exhaustion and with, as many of your other (quite fine) communications, a humorous undertone; if not, you've served only to bear out that those those who were concerned about your ability to be cordial and other-than-abrupt in your dealings with other editors (amongst which number I tended to count myself) were correct. Joe 19:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I feel I made the right decision opposing you RfA, especially after you outburst at the end saying frak you all. In regard to the, since when is anyone punished for an accident 2 weeks after? remark you made, well... In my RfA, I had an incident 2 months before & was denied becasue of it. However, if you keep a clean sheet for the next few months, you should have no trouble making it, as comments made after a stressful RfA are always understandable. More so than an outburst from nowhere. Please stay civil & cheer up. Don't leave Wikipedia or anything either. As an admin once told me; If an admin leaves, anybody can delete an article etc. However, if an editor or writer leaves, it makes a bigger impact. So hang in there & stay cool whlst waiting for your next RfA... :) Spawn Man 04:23, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your support at RFA

I wasn't going to send thank-you cards, but the emotional impact of hitting WP:100 (and doing so unanimously!) changed my mind. So I appreciate your confidence in me, and hope you'll let me know if I can do anything for you in the future. Cheers! -- nae'blis 22:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Requesting Your Help to stop vandal

There is a malicious WIKIPEDIA vandal named Rolan Rance, operating under user name RolandR, who has been posting and reposting false and libelous information on a number of Wikipedia pages, including the articles on David Bukay, Steven Plaut, and a few others. He then has requested page protection to prevent other sfrom correcting and repairing his vandalism.

Please do something to put a stop to his malicious mischief.

Thank you

Josef Szamuels

The information is neither false nor libellous. It is true and fully referenced. The pages have been protected, not in order to prevent genuine editing by editors with differing views and interpretations, but to prevent unidentified individuals from opening new accounts, and then immediately using these pages to post offensive and libellous comments attacking me. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive148#Repeated personal attacks for details. This complaint seems to come from another in the long string of attack accounts set up in order to protect Plaut and Bukay, and to traduce me. --RolandR 12:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I've reviewed the situation, watched the page, and warned both users for 3RR. Any 3RR after this point will get you blocked, and editwarring without violating 3RR will just hurt your position. ST47Talk 20:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
The problem with this attempted even-handedness is that I have been restoring properly sourced information, which is being repeatedly renoved -- without any discussion -- by an account apparently set up purely for the purpose of editing this article. Steven Plaut was semi-protected after new accounts were set up, with the apparent purpose of merely editing this article, and adding personal abuse. As soon as the semi-protection was lifted, a new account was set up, which was used to revert the article three times, and to complain about me after my first reversion. --RolandR 01:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Then you may have abusive sockpuppets. You can visit WP:RFCU to confirm that they are the same person, then visit WP:AN/I to report it and get a block in place. I'd say that the RFCU is code C, based on the table. If I had the names and everything, I'd file it for you, but it seems like you know what's going on more than I. ST47Talk 01:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I looked at the history and filed a request at WP:RFCU ST47Talk 01:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I made such a request some weeks ago, still unanswered, at WP:RFCU#Fumigate. This has many more Userids and IPs than you list. I tried to add info to your request at WP:RFCU#Szamuels, but there seems to be a problem with the section edit tag, and I'm unable to open that section for editing. But my earlier request is still on the page.--RolandR 10:56, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Roland Rance is a malicious liar and vandal. He vandalizes wikipedia pages on Zionists. He simply inserted malicious libelous material on the basis of an unsupported assertion by David Newman, Neve Gordon's crony and sidekick, which Newman inserted in a Tikkun article. Tikkun is not a source anyone would consider authoritative nor serious. The judg ein th ecase in question herself dismissed Newman's statement as baseless. In Newman's Tikkun article, he had no evidence nor factual supports to back up his assertion. It was simply what he thought. Rance has been inserting this in th eweb page as an internet prank.

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[edit] CFD removals

Greetings. I noticed that, after your bot removed Category:Fictional heroines from pages, they were not being removed from redirects. I've cleaned (actually in the process of) this cat from redirects, but is there a way to catch these in the future, or is it an intrinsic error of the wiki code? Cheers! -- Huntster T@C 04:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, my bot's an idiot like that. I'll send it throuth those again and have it remove from the redirect pages, thanks for letting me know! ST47Talk 11:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CfR

I replied at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Effecting_a_CfR TonyTheTiger 19:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CFD (NZ soccer)

Hi - I notice a glitches with your STbot - it seems to have removed categories from articles affected by the proposed change in the names of New Zealand soccer categories (from football to soccer), but not replaced new categories (Chatham Cup is one example). Also for some reason (possibly related and almost certainly piping) Cat:New Zealand football clubs seems to be in a completely haphazard order. Grutness...wha? 20:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Shit. I'm not sure why, though I will fix the categories properly using an old database dump. Thanks for telling me. ST47Talk 20:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
as for the order, there isn't a single reason why it should be doing that :S ST47Talk 19:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 24.72.1.39 edit abuse.

Hello!

I just noticed that 24.72.1.39 again had an interesting run-in with Wikipedia staff and I thought I'd try my best to rectify the situation...

24.72.1.39 is actually a public highschool of some 600 unmonitored, public computers behind a centralized NAT server, meaning vandalism from this range is all but inevitable. Its user page actually contains edits that I made, recommending that it be permanently blocked (complete with weather information) but nobody saw it initially.

It should also be apparent on 24.72.1.39's user page how I know this, I go to that school, and thats where I edited the userpage from!

Im not sure of the criteria for permanently blocking an address from editing, but I suggest you strongly consider this one. Its a static IP address, as the provider for their internet service is the same I use (a Shaw-based corporation in the local area).

- RiceCake

[edit] anybody created a wiki?

Has anyone created a wiki? Reply and please tell the name.

[edit] thx

Thanks to whoever replied. im ok. my wiki is perfect. What i mean is, have you ever made a wikipedia page?Mattthecat 19:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Abuse_reports/204.43.65.1

How is it going?Ddcc 15:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Nver got a reply - I thoguh I removed it from WP:ABUSE ST47Talk 22:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok. BTW, people normally reply on the others' talk page. Ddcc 02:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subst'ing {{wc}} et. al

Thanks for doing these. It seems some of the uses are {{WC}} rather than {{wc}}. I've also spotted another template in the area that could do with subst'ing (same thing - the whole "template masquerading as article content" thing). I'll dig a little deeper to catch a fuller list that will come back here in the first instance, and back to WP:BOTREQ if you're not up for it. Chris cheese whine 22:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Just list templates here, I'm allowed to do any now that it's approved, as for the capitals, i can run through again, though it was supposed to be case insensitive. I'll check. Thanks! ST47Talk 00:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
So far: {{nft}}, {{nftu21}}, {{wnft}}. Chris cheese whine 02:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:RFBOT

Your recent bot approvals request has been approved. Please see the request page for details. When the bot flag is set it will show up in this log. -- RM 00:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism? Me?

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You have made an edit that could be regarded as defamatory. Please do not restore this material to the article or its talk page. If you do, you may be blocked for disruption. See the blocking policy.Pascal.Tesson 04:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to Sports drink, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. ST47Talk 19:12, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I have recieved this message on two occaisons and found them to be useless and offensive. Upon trying to edit pages for clarity, as was the case on the Laxatives page, changing "more for ladies" to "feminine" and trying to fix a link on the Sports Drink page (Mountain Dew AMP) I was told I was vandalising these pages. Why is this, and what can I do to stop it? I am not a vandal, and I have made many edits before that, in my view, have helped the Wikipedia project along.

Anthalamo

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[edit] Bot flag granted

Hi, your bot flag has been granted. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! ST47Talk 11:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Pitdog

High End audio - ATC company removal. can it be put back into the document? i realize i didn't supply proper links, but the info is legit, the company is quite sth among the high end hardware manufacturers. soon i hope to have some time to create a separate entry about ATC. regards - pitdog http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pitdog

[edit] Assuming good faith

Dude, when I prove that good faith doesn't exist, and then close by saying "that's in bad faith," then I don't see why I would be required to assume good faith. In the presence of overwhelming evidence, provided by me, destroying such a presumption, it's nonsensical to retain such a presumption. When you rebut a presumption, it disappears.

Also, I hope Tuxide wasn't too hard on you. I know he said some mean things and threatened to report your violation, but that's not the way I roll, and I will defend you against his assault. BonniePrinceCharlie 16:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I have a headache today - remind me what we're talking about? ST47Talk 19:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What Is Your Bot Doing?

Looks like you're ripping out a whole bunch of information that ought not be ripped out (e.g., [1]). What is the purpose of the edits? --DanielPenfield 15:28, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

The change in question removed an interwiki link to an article that didn't exist. It looked to me like the link was malformed, but I don't speak the language. The bot in this case removed a bad link. -- RM 15:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Sadly, neither does my bot. The link was to a non-existent page (Valeur absolue des écarts), and because of the -force parameter, it is removed. Also, the bot did not find any good links to fr, or else it would have replaced it. ST47Talk 16:33, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Looks like certain browsers can't understand multibyte characters and are corrupting articles on edits. Your bot then compounds the problem by deleting them out-of-hand rather than attempting to repair. Admittedly a good repair algorithm might be technically challenging, but it would be preferable to simply deleting with no explanation other than "robot Removing: ...". --DanielPenfield 16:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
First, it's not vandalism, so WP:AGF. Have you found where it was corrupted? With examples, it can probably be fixed to replace the characters with the original link, if you can explain what the difference between the version I removed and the version you reverted to was, I can ask the programmers. ST47Talk 18:46, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
It appears to me that in this instance, either the browser (or text editor if the Finn copied the article edit window to an editor, made changes, and then pasted back into the browser) converted the ISO/IEC 8859-1 character 0xE9 ("é") to its UTF-8 equivalent ("é"). May I suggest you examine what your bot is doing and compare that to what you think it should be doing? A better approach is to perform a dry run and randomly inspect the edits it would make to make sure you understand what was going on before running something that makes permanent changes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DanielPenfield (talkcontribs) 21:37, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] American strong ale

Hi. You did some work on this article. I'm now proposing a redirect to Pale Ale, similar to the original redirect. American strong ale is a variation on pale ale, and the different variations are best initially discussed in the main article. Later, if enough information grows, we can split it off, but for now it might be best to allow it to grow in a place where attention could be concentrated. SilkTork 21:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent vandalism to User:Colin Keigher

Please do not edit the user pages of other contributors without their approval or consent, as you did with User:Colin Keigher. It may be seen as vandalism. ST47Talk 01:00, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Questionable edit by bot

Hello! Altmann was recently edited by your bot to this version. I couldn't figure out why it might have been done, since it didn't make any sense to delete the valid interwiki links. I reverted the edit, but thought you might like to look into it. Best regards, Cmprince 01:32, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me! The second link, to ja, was deleted because it linked to a dead page. The other one(de?) was deleted because it wasn't properly marked as a disambiguation, or for some reason the bot thought it wasn't a DaB - it's probably an isolated incident, the bot is usually good about that. If it detects DaBness using templates, which I suspect, I'll see if the {{surname}} can be added. ST47Talk 01:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
This sounds like the same type of link that was removed from Aramachi Station (Miyagi). The original ja: link was to DAB page, so maybe the bot doesn't recognize other language's DAB templates (on the ja DAB page, a template named {{aimai}} was used). Neier 12:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
This is at least the second complaint about your bot. IMHO you should be actively investigating the changes rather than summarily discounting them. --DanielPenfield 14:02, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
The DaB to non-DaB issue has been resolved by a manual patch. we do not know all the DaB templates or categories yet, because of new ones, or rare ones, as I am told about them or as other people add them ,I will update my config. ST47Talk 19:23, 21 December 2006 (UTC)