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[edit] Comparison wanted
... If however you feel that a comparison is necessary I would encourage the comparison to be made to a currently used, widespread call (i.e. that appears on today's Callerlab list).
... I think a comparison of steps that are performed differently in the two types of square dancing would be useful. Allemande was the only one I could recall clearly from both that differed for a sensible reason. Perhaps you are more knowledgable than me and can suggest another step. I can think of "star right", which is performed in Western sd like the English step "hands four", but English dance is not really square dancing. David 11:37 Aug 16, 2002 (PDT)
... Otherwise, my best suggestion would be to find someone who dances both programs. Dan 11:34 Aug 30, 2002
Comment to KrisJensen:
I want to point out that not all MWSDers do Dosado with the "Highland Fling" styling. Many do it according to the "rule book". Many frown upon the widespread use of this styling. And of course there are also many who use the styling, especially within certain "communities", geographical and otherwise. Here in Denmark it is a rare thing to see people use it. Dan 13:34, 9. januar 2003
Comment about petticoats and square dance attire:
I had at one point moved the text dealing with square dance clothing from this article over to the Western square dance article. The reason for this was that the discussion of clothing did not focus on a comparison between that used in Western square dance and that used in traditional square dance. I have added a link to a "future" petticoat article in the Western square dance article.Dan 13:34, 9. januar 2003
- That does seem like a better place to address attire. -- Jeff
I removed external link to western square dance events in the Pacific Northwest (primarily Washington, as best I can see). This is a general article on square dance (both western and traditional), and the links should mirror the scope of the article. If you want to promote your guide to dances in this area, the Dosado.com website is probably a good place to list your site. Sfdan 08:49, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
I have set up a new category called Category:Wikipedian square dancers for those who wish to identify themselves on their user pages as square dancers. I think this would be a nice way to form a little subcommunity for ourselves in Wikipedialand. Hope to see others of you "square up" in this virtual set. Sfdan 08:05, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Article streamlining
I've tried to streamline the article so that it focuses solely on the comparison of the two types of square dancing, and added a note at the top of the article to clarify this. Otherwise, newcomers to the article (such as myself, originally) will be tempted to add lots of particular information about one or the other form of square dancing, instead of looking for that information in the appropriate specific article. Also, readers should be directed to the specific article, if detailed information is what they are looking for. C. Scott Ananian 21:53, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you for your efforts to streamline the article. The header is very helpful, among all the other changes. It has been a struggle to find the right balance in this article between too much information, and not enough, and to keep it from getting too traditional or too modern Western. Thanks for moving the article in the right direction. As for Lloyd Shaw, I have amended the statement about him again. According to all I've read he did not research and document square dance directions "in order to create a uniform, standardized type of dance", but rather "to preserve traditional American folk dance". His efforts— publishing, teaching, showcasing with his youth group— brought square dancing to the attention of a lot of people. Standardisation came with Callerlab. --SFDan 05:58, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Looks good to me. According to the Wikipedia article on Lloyd Shaw, he did "create a universal list" and "the lists were later adopted by callers all across the country", but I'm perfectly happy with the current wording you've come up with. I can't say I'm an expert on Lloyd Shaw. =) Thanks for all your work on these square dance articles! C. Scott Ananian 12:38, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- Then the problem lay in the Lloyd Shaw article. I have now fixed the text there, and clarified his role with dance documentation and the creation of a universal list. I hope it is clearer than previously. --SFDan 14:36, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Promenade Act information
I'm very happy with the page currently, however I feel that the section on the 'Promenade Act' doesn't quite fit with the rest of the content (which is now comparisons of square dances). I don't have any good ideas for how to fix this, though. C. Scott Ananian 15:10, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
