Talk:Spectral efficiency

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[edit] Review

The definition could be a bit more general as it applies to more than digital. It could apply to analogue. It could apply to how spectrum is allocated by regulatory agencies.

The Shannon theorem formula should be here so that you can calculate bits per Hertz.

Telephone modem example is not strictly correct. If the bandwidth is filtered to the 3100 Hertz you will not get the 56000 bit rate through. To get that rate there will have to be less filtering. The channel will be quantized to 8 bits and so can only carry 16 bits per Hertz at the most.

"In wireless networks, the system spectral efficiency in bit/s/Hz/area unit, bit/s/Hz/cell or bit/s/Hz/site is a measure of the quantity of users or services that can be simultaneously supported by a limited radio frequency bandwidth in a defined geographic area."

This sentence packs in too many units - probably better to break it into two sentences with one unit in the first, and then an extension to the variations. Otherwise it is too confusing to read.

It would be good to add some analogue systems eg single sideband instead of AM or FM. We could have a bit of regulatory requirements. We could also have the tradeoffs, eg more power to get more signal to noise ratio, but more spectrum can reduce the power required.

In the comparason table it would be good to add some more, for example those landline modems, and some amateur digital radio schemes, some satellite transmission systems.

We could have a section on how efficiency can be improved, some techniques are mentioned in passing already.

If I can find the time I may get around to some improvements over the next few months.

GB 22:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


I see that Mehwoot has had a go at recalculating the spectral efficiency of a V.92 modem. However the raw bandwidth at the exchange is 0-4000 Hertz sampled at 8 bits at 8000 samples per second. An antialias filter will reduce this bandwidth somewhat below the 4000 Hertz limit. I will confirm what the rates are for what bandwidths. The maximum data throughput that could happen would be 64000 bits per second or 16 bits per Hertz. GB 06:30, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bits/s/Hz

Huh? Hz = s-1, therefore Hz-1 = s. Hence, bits * s-1 * Hz-1 = bits * s-1 * s Hence, bits/s/Hz = bits.

So, why use units of bits/s/Hz for spectral efficiency, when "bits/s/Hz" is just a confusing way of saying "bits"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.189.8.183 (talk) 03:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC).

Because to say, for example, that GSM has a spectral efficiency of 0.52 bits would sound more confusing (although dimensionally correct). bits/s/Hz is the standard unit. Oli Filth 02:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)