Talk:Spearhead from Space
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[edit] Novelisations
Do we really want covers of the novelisations here? --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:38, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Only if it's the Japanese one, which is a masterpiece! Angmering 22:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
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- I suppose that this is something we have to decide in general for story articles, because so far we've only had the screenshot in most cases. I personally don't find it aesthetically pleasing to have the cover in addition to the screenshot, but consensus may disagree, which is why I'm soliciting opinions. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:58, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Okay, okay, I'll give a proper answer. :-) No, I don't think we need the covers, and I also think a fair use claim for them might be dodgy. Angmering 23:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
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- I don't know about the fair use claim (IANAL, and I don't really understand the ins and outs of fair use anyway), but putting that aside I think that having a novelisation cover is actually rather nice — especially if we can get the older covers with the Frank Bellamy art. In the pre-video age, the novelisations were an important element in passing on Doctor Who lore, and I think it's appropriate to recognise them, if the rules and law allow. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 23:20, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
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- I think you mean Chris Achilleos. Bellamy only worked for the Radio Times.--The Brain of Morbius 23:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's who I meant. D'oh! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
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- I believe novelisation covers are fair use because the article discusses them. Also, this one is notable on its own. 23skidoo 01:35, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
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That's all fair enough - I don't feel particularly strongly about it, but enough that I wanted to gauge other people's views on this. I still think we should continue to stick to one screenshot, but a novelisation scan is okay. Cool. --09:04, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
- If it is to be used it should be in the relevant section, which in this case is the notes section. Also I think it should be a bit smaller but that is a minor issue. Tim! 17:02, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Yuck, no. If the article had a separate section on the novelisation, then that section could maybe have a (much smaller) image, but as it stands, I don't see anything justifying it. --KJBracey 12:03, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- Not even note #4?
- There are three separate questions here: whether we are permitted by Wikipedia's interpretation of fair use to have the image, whether we want to have the image, and if we do want it where it should be located and how prominently. I'm not qualified to address the first. We have a difference of opinion on the second (I say keep it). As for the third, is it really better to have empty space next to the cast list than to fill it with an image? Maybe it's just a different aesthetic, but I kind of like having the novelisation cover in that blank space. (That said, I do recognize that it would be more appropriate to put it next to the relevant note.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:02, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bessie or not?
While I don't think the name "Bessie" was actually applied to the yellow roadster in Spearhead, I'm pretty certain the car that appears in this episode was the some vehicle later driven by the Doctor because he makes the Brigadier buy it for him as one of the conditions of his joining UNIT at the end of the serial. I'd like to get other views from people on this. And it's what's on screen that counts, not novels for fanlit (although Doctor Who is admittedly less strict in the canon department than Star Trek when it comes to this). I'm quite willing to stand corrected. 23skidoo 22:07, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, I just did what I should have done before I made my edit. A viewing of the DVD gives the following info. The car in question shows up about twelve minutes into episode two. The Doctor makes off with it and drives it to UNIT HQ. In a scene just before this one of the UNIT guards comments that it belongs to one of the bigwig medical people who has just shown up. It is red and its hood (er bonnet) is noticeably longer than Bessie's. It does not appear onscreen again but at the end of episode four, when the Doctor is negotiating his terms, he DOES (my bad) ask about keeping it and the Brig says "No Doctor, it has to go back to its owner". The Doctor than wheedles the Brig into getting one like it and asks when they can go get one. The Brig says that they have to get the Doctor's papers first and then says that he doesn't even know his name and we get the famous "John Smith" with smile as closing credits come up. Sorry that I wasn't more thorough to begin with. I'll make a stab at altering the info given but I won't mind any changes that improve what I do. MarnetteD | Talk 22:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
- Definitely a case of the memory cheating on my part. I do stand corrected. If you haven't already, please feel free to reinstate your original information. I would do so myself however another editor has already made a change, so I can't revert my revert. 23skidoo 22:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tattoo note
I've put everything into sections, but I can't think where to put the tattoo note. Also my organising of sections might need a little adjusting. --Thelb4 16:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
