User talk:Sparaig

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[edit] Welcome!

Howdy, Sparaig, Welcome to Wikipedia!

Thank you for your contributions, you seem to be off to a good start. Hopefully you will soon join the vast army of Wikipediholics! If you need help on how to title new articles see the naming conventions, and for help on formatting the pages visit the manual of style. For general questions goto Wikipedia:Help or the FAQ, if you can't find your answer there check the Village Pump (for Wikipedia related questions) or the Reference Desk (for general questions)! There's still more help at the Tutorial and Policy Library. Plus, don't forget to visit the Community Portal. If you have any more questions after that, feel free to ask me directly on my user talk page.

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[edit] Be Bold!!

You can find me at my user page or talk page for any questions. Happy editing, and we'll see ya 'round.

Joe I 11:03, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

Welcome to Wikipedia, Lawson! I noticed your entry on the TM talk: page and recognized your name from User:askolnick's - shall we say "interesting" external website, as well as his somewhat persistent quizzing of other users if they were you. I've been engaged in a slight dispute with Askolnick over on the Natasha Demkina article. I would suggest getting to know Wikipedia policies very well, starting with No personal attacks, and everything under citing sources.
- Dreadlocke 02:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please respect Wikipedia rules

Lawson, your addition of your personal point of view into the Transcendental Meditation article and unjustified deletion of material you don't like -- along with Peterklutz' repeated violations of NPOV and other rules -- has caused a lock to be placed on the TM article. I had to ask for this protection to stop these violations. Please respect Wikipedia rules in the future.Askolnick 15:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please what?

Please what? I blocked Peterklutz for personal attacks and incivility. Do you disagree with that? Have you looked at the post I blocked him for? If you have an accusation of similar, or any, violations on the part of ASkolnick, please make them in a more direct manner. Violations of the WP:3RR should preferably be reported at WP:AN/3RR, personal attacks at WP:PAIN, a very well-watched and fast-moving page where your complaint will usually receive immediate attention, provided it's explanatory and explicit. "Please" won't do it. Bishonen | talk 02:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC).

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Pentium Bug

[edit] Thanks for fixing Hagelin

Hi, Sparaig. Thanks for your contributions to the TM article and for fixing Hagelin. I had been meaning to make that change regarding Ig Nobel. I had fixed that same thing on the TM-Sidhi page. If you're so inclined, you might also want to fix it in the article on What the Bleep Do We Know!?.TimidGuy 12:55, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for info

HI, Sparaig. Thanks for your participation in the TM article. The info about Skolnick was helpful and explained a lot. I disagree with Sethie -- I think it's appropriate to bring any relevant information to bear in the context of the Talk page. TimidGuy 18:59, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Just about everyone disagrees with Sethie on this point, I think. The talk page is for hashing things out. It's not the final draft of the article so its ok to bring in usually questionable sources in order to further the discussion. In fact, my source really isn't questionable, because Andrew is quite proud of all of his writings, on newsgroups or in professional publications, and wouldn't deny he wrote the article if asked. He seems like generally a very nice guy, but has extreme blinders concerning New Age type stuff due to his family background. On the topic of TM, he's exceptionally biased: in his eyes, he was sued for no good reason by a deceptive, literally evil, organization. -Sparaig 19:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Sometime e-mail me via my Wikipedia e-mail about his family background. Curious. TimidGuy 18:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Our discussion

Since this isn't about TM per say I have moved my response to you here.


LOL, Seithie, the MEDIATOR isn't that worried about it. What is your thing about newsgroups? If ASkolnick wants to denounce my selective quoting of our online discussion that we had 7-10 years ago he can come back and say "that wasn't really me." I'm telling you outright, that I know for a fact that the posts by "Lawson English" ARE by Lawson English (me) and by extension, since Andrew (ASkolnick) Skolnick's own website selectively quotes me from those same discussions and never says "I didn't say this particular article, XYZ," that the entire series of articles attributed to him in the newsheaders from the Google newsgroup archive IS by him. Since I'm not proposing to include any aspect of the material as source material in the article, what can possibly be the point of your objection? They are the record of a public argument explicitly acknowledged by me and tacitly acknowledged by ASkolncik. I stand by all that I said, allowing for inadvertent factual and grammatical errors on my part, and I'm pretty sure that Andrew does as well. -Sparaig 19:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you that our mediator is not concerned with you bringing up newsgroups here.
As for my thing with newsgroups, well they don't qualify as a WP:RS. For me, since they don't count as sources, they don't count as reliable, well sources ABOUT sources either. Why would I use something unreliable to make decisions about what is reliable? For me, they cloud issues, not clarify them.
On the other hand, anything off Andrews' website, in my book has a higher level of reliability (not neccesarily accuracy mind you), so if there are any quotes there that are relevant to the discussion, please bring those.
My "thing" with newsgroups is that, there are A LOT of discussions going on right now on this page, and I would enjoy it if there were less, especially discussions that can and will have no impact on the actual article. Can you show me an instance in which reffering to newsgroups actually moved an article along/resolved a dispute/etc. here on wikipedia? Maybe I am all wrong about newsgroups, maybe they do really serve wikipedia. I am open to being wrong about them.
When I want to get clear on something in wikipedia, I sometimes ask myself would editors of the Briticana look at/talk about/use this? For me they wouldn't give newsgroups the time of day and hence I would enjoy it if you brought them up less here and brought up other sources.
I guess I am partially resentful that you bring them up, because I don't, and I want to! There is soooooooo much critical stuff of TM on newsgroups, some even posted by people who would pass WP:RS, and yet my understanding is that this is outside what is allowed in WP.Sethie 19:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
But again, I never advocated quoting Andrew or myself in those discussions in the wikipedia article. At most, they were being used to support TimgidGuy's statement: an encouragement to look for more RS if necessary. And, it seems to me, that Andrew's admission that there WAS a secret "agreement" kinda reinforces TimidGuy's claim that he's seen a copy of the court order. Afterall, you haven't asked him to furnish that copy, now have you? -Sparaig 21:44, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
You know, sometimes I want to focus or help a conversation, and I end up distracting it, this appears to be one of those times. You and the others found value in what you posted, so I drop my complaints about them. Sethie 17:07, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] COI

Thanks, Sparaig, for making those points about COI. TimidGuy 17:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

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