Talk:Sparkling Generation Valkyrie Yuuki/Delete

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The following discussion was about whether this should have been deleted. The result was to keep it.

  • Sparkling Generation Valkyrie Yuuki - fails Alexa test. See this link. -- Cyan 06:27, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • Delete. RickK 06:54, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • Who is Alexa, and who made her dictator? I don't see why this is any less real or less worthy than any of the other sites on the List of web comics. If we can have a List of Pokémon, we can have an article on this webcomic as well. Keep. -- Smerdis of Tlön 22:22, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC)
      • The Google/Alexa test doesn't overrule consensus, of course. It's just a way of saying, "I didn't think the topic was famous/important, and evidence from some webcrawling software seems to bear that out." -- Cyan 21:41, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • Delete. -- BCorr ¤ Брайен 23:19, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • All those sites at List of web comics deserves a line or two of description even if they are not so important. But putting all those stubs on the list-page itself would make it really large. BL 05:35, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • I don't think the Alexa test is the correct way to go with this kind of thing. Google test seems better. Google gets to ~800, not sure whether to judge that as a 'keep' or 'delete' though. Andre Engels 13:32, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • Delete, based on lack of content presently and in the foreseeable future. Please note, however, that this is not a vote based on the Alexa test (indeed, I do not condone its use as the primary justification for removal, though it help justify its unimportance in this case), as I agree that the Alexa test is unsuitable for webcomics (hell, even Penny Arcade (Wiki) and Megatokyo (Wiki) would be relegated to a small blurb on the list of web comics if we followed a strict adherence to the Alexa test, which Cyan would appear to be seeking for, based on his statement on List of web comics/temp). -- Pipian 02:19, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)
      • Um, I have not yet edited List of web comics/temp (hist). -- Cyan 14:01, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)
        • Sorry. I thought you were BL! My bad... -- Pipian
      • To Pipian: Penny Arcade gets an alexa rank of 2,420. SGVY (which I read) is ranked 363,507. There's a big difference there. Martin 17:49, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)
        • True, I suppose on this account. I hadn't realized it at the time, but still, the principle remains that you must be more careful of where the limit is located on Alexa searches for webcomics. -- Pipian
    • I wonder whether an article at transgender web comic would be worthwhile. I might make such a thing. If someone decides to delete it, could they instead move it to my user space? Martin 17:49, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • As I've explained on Talk:List of web comics/temp, it seems unfair that webcomics and paper comics have different rules. Do we have a minimum circulation set for a paper publication to have an article? Are the popularity requirements equal across media types? Unless it can be shown that all things being equal, the article would still go had the comic been printed, Keep. Articles covering comics by theme would be an acceptable way to do this. Kirun 18:22, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • I am withdrawing my vote to delete this article, given the discussion on Talk:List of web comics/temp. (That's "abstain", not "keep".) -- Cyan 03:12, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep. Maybe these should mostly be grouped a few to a page by topic or first letter instead of in individual articles? JamesDay 08:21, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • We don't need to delete stuff like this. Wiwaxia 22:03, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep! It already has 34 issues. So it isn't fly-by-night, or just brand new. Kingturtle 22:06, 17 Oct 2003 (UTC)

In response to Kirun's comment, I think there probably should be some inclination of a minimum circulation/readership for paper publications too - though I'm not sure where we'd draw the line. And, of course, it'd have to be a flexible rule, just like the Alexa test. Martin 22:19, 19 Oct 2003 (UTC)

    • I Agree with Pipian, an encyclopedia is about more or less general/useful knowledge. This is just an advertisement anyone could get from googling the thing in the first place. Why waste space on the wikipedia with something like this? Either people genuinely interested in the topic should make this article worthwhile, or we should just delete it. Edward Grefenstette 11:38, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
The article is currently 749 bytes in size. Your comment above is 425 bytes in size. The vote for deletion above is 4399 bytes. Far more space has been "wasted" on Wikipedia arguing over whether to delete this than the article itself does; if that's your only reason for wanting to delete it then it's quite counterproductive. As for deleting any article that's not "worthwhile", with all due respect that's silly. Wikipedia is a work in progress, there are tens of thousands of stubs out there that are just the beginning of an article. The beginning of an article is better than no article. Bryan 15:13, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I should also note, this page was put on VfD without a corresponding VfD header being added to the page. As a result it's only just now showed up on my watchlist after-the-fact, and if the vote had wound up on the "delete" side I would never have known that this article was removed. To whomever listed it, please be much more careful in the future not to forget to add the VfD header. Most people don't monitor the VfD page itself. Bryan 15:16, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Gah, I just noticed that there was a proper notice, I wasn't looking far enough back in the history. Must have missed it when it passed by on my watchlist. Bryan 03:41, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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