Talk:Spanish ship Santísima Trinidad
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[edit] I think this entry is not fair.
Good day. I do not believe the author did an impartial job. Considering the Santisima Trinidad as a "clumby" ship, and their crew as in same way, is giving the English fleet all the credit for the winning battle.
- I disagree. She clearly wasn't a great success or the design would have been repeated. Instead, the Spanish built another class of more successful 112-gun ships. JimmyTheOne 00:17, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] This page duplicates another page on this ship
There are two pages for the Santísima Trinidad. This one, and one at Spanish ship Santissima Trinidad.
I suggest that we merge the two articles on this page. See Talk:Spanish ship Santissima Trinidad. JimmyTheOne 00:17, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
My Spanish is poor, but I believe "Poderoso" means "powerful" Bastie 17:49, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
I would say "The Mighty". It was in fact the largest ship of line in its time, carrying upto 144 guns. The only one with four decks and some 5000 tons of displacement. About the size of a modern light cruisier or a heavy destroyer or about half the size of a modern European aircraft carrier. She was one of the reasons for Villenueve to head for Cadiz instead of for Brest, as he wanted to reinforce the Combined Fleet with the Spanish giant before confronting the British. In Trafalgar, the Trinidad was captured as the consequence of the so called "the third Villenueve´s mistake in Trafalgar", then she was released by the Spaniards and finaly she was sunk by the storm that follows the battle.
Villenueve disobeiyed Bonaparte´s orders to go to the Channel (First mistake); then, against the criterion and previous comitment of his whole staff (and only to avoid handing over the command to other French Admiral, who was in his way to Cadiz sent by Bonaparte), he took out the Fleet from the Cadiz Harbour when the Combined was enjoing a clear strategic adventage, since Nelson, who was blocking the Cadiz Bay with his fleet, was in fact in a trap, facing, off shore, a long winter season under the triple threat of: 1) the Combined Fleet, itself, blocked but protected inside the Cadiz harbour, plus 2) the Spanish fleet in La Coruña, and 3) the Spanish fleet in Cartagena, which were ready to move on, not to mention the French fleets in Tolon and Brest (to accept the battle was a gift to Nelson and a second mistake). The third mistake was the maneuver traying to take back the Combined to Cadiz, which virtually rendered the entire fleet to Nelson. (Threshold 16:36, 31 January 2006 (UTC))
