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Yeah, but is it good? CoolGuy 21:25, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.169.4.21 (talk • contribs) 00:17, 2005 December 22.

The movie was GRRRReat! My question is why is it controversial for a Spanish woman to play Mexican? I though Mexicans spoke Spanish. I didn't see any controversy because Tracey Ullman portrayed a Russian and she's British. DonMEGA⁶⁰⁶⁴⁵ 17:19, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

The language that most Mexicans speak is Spanish as they do in Spain (albeit Castillian). However, that simple observation indicates some naiveté on your part. The issue is not language but that most of the population of Mexico is Mestizo (70% - people of Spanish and Native American origin) and Paz Vega clearly has more European features. It goes without saying that there is profound racism in Mexico and those of more Spanish-European descent are not ones that come here to be housekeepers. Watch Mexican television for an idea of what I am talking about. Mexico is far more class-oriented (de facto caste system) based on race to a far more substantial degree than in the U.S. where you are guaranteed an education to grade 12 simply for the asking. The movie therefore represented someone atypical in appearance relative to most Mexicans.

The cynic in me would think this was an attempt to make the illegal alien crisis more palatable to America at large due to Hollywood's preoccupation with multiculturalism and hyphenated Americanism. However, it misses the point (of course). The vast majority of Americans simply believe it to be a rule of law issue and not of nationality/ethnic origin. Are Mexicans entitled to come here illegally en masse over everyone else in the world that wants to come here just because we share a common border? Such a largely homogenous group of immigrants (language and culture) coming here illegally is unprecedented and damages the prospect of measured assimilation and our tradition of Americanization of immigrants (common identity as Americans). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.14.148.51 (talk • contribs) 18:19, 2006 August 31.

The anonymous poster above did a fine job of explaining why it was idiotic to cast a white Spanish person as an undocumented Mexican housekeeper in America, so I'm only going to add some additional comments. Casting Spanish white actress Paz Vega as a Mexican servant in the US illegally was NOT like casting British actress Tracy Ullman as a Russian. It was more akin to casting Samuel L. Jackson, Cheech Marin or Lucy Liu as a Russian. There are white Mexicans, but as the above poster has already said, they're generally well-off and have much less reason to come to America (let alone illegally) than non-white Mexicans.

--drumwolf – 71.139.167.228 (Talk/Contribs) 2006 Dec. 16 and 72.1.150.252 (Talk/Contribs) 2006 Dec. 29

The most important reason why it is crazy to cast a European in that specific role, is because Flor's daughter sayd to Tea Leoni's character "You are the nicest white woman I've ever met". This rules out the possibility that Flor is a white Mexican. Americans would have laughed if someone like Sandra Bullock played Flor, so why is it acceptable for Paz Vega who is far less ethnic looking that Sandra Bullock, for instance, to play this ethnic character? Because American media has grouped all spanish-speaking peopl into one ridiculous group "Latino", "Hispanic" and more, but the fact is that placing a European and a person of mostly Aztec decect, like most Mexicans are, in one Group is like calling Samuel L. ackson white simply because he speaks english and has an Englisg surname. Does this make him and Jude Law of the same ethnic background? NO!!!

[edit] Plot

I edited the apostrophes out of the summary header and the "trivia", if you could call it that, which simply said "Some fans think this is Adam Sandlers worst movie", no citation, pure opinion. I think the plot summary probably contains a negative slant though i haven't read it through... (don't worry i didn't edit it) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.215.133.69 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 2006 July 12.

[edit] Flor’s name

With regards to the pronunciation of Flor, I can hear the differences in the scene, but cannot make the correct sound myself. Are there any English words with the same “r”/“or” sound? —MJBurrage • TALK • 22:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)