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[edit] Beetles, and Category:Beetles

Is there a reason why you're removing Category:Beetles from the beetle stubs? I had always thought it was good policy to leave the category there, i.e. that all stubs should be in at least one category, even if it merely repeats the stub category. --Stemonitis 12:05, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

A question about a recent edit by yourself (USER:SP-KP) concerning the Aphthona article: Why is it not a stub? Sure, there's a whole long list of species names, but the actual information seems pretty scant as yet and certainly in need of expansion. Just wondering where our opinions were differing. Thanks, --Jhml 18:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On July 6, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Helophilus pendulus, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--BRIAN0918 01:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SSSIs Avon v Somerset

Hi,

I noticed you'd recategorised several SSSIs from Somerset to Avon - seeing as Avon no longer exists & these are in the county of Somerset I wondered why? — Rod talk 14:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

OK I now understand your rationale (although I think most users might not) - how about an explanatory paragraph on the category pages eg "some SSSIs in Somerset may be listed in Avon because.... & then the explanation you gave me? — Rod talk 16:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
seems fine - might also need one on the defunct county page eg Category:Sites of Special Scientific Interest in ClevelandDo you want me to copy & adapt for Somerset & Avon?— Rod talk 16:38, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I've copied your format & done Avon & Somerset. — Rod talk 16:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I can't find any evidence of Stanton Drew as an SSSI - I think this may have been confused with ancient monuments - I've removed it from the Template:Chew Valley & may do another line saying historic features or similar. Looking at it I need to tidy & expand the Stanton Drew article when I get some time. — Rod talk 14:14, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Myriophyllum

Hi SP-KP - this is a ridiculously small category (3 entries!) which doesn't perform any useful purpose. They should be retained in Category:Saxifragales to make the categorising more useful - it makes checking 'recent changes' for vandalism a lot easier, doing 100-200 pages at a go, rather than having to navigate to 20 or 30 tiny genus categories only to check a handful of pages for each one. Once Category:Saxifragales breaks 200 articles (the max that will show on the cat page), then (but not before), they could be re-catted to a new Category:Haloragidaceae - MPF 17:21, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks; there's never been any formal decision on plant categorising, but I've posted on it a couple of times Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Categorisation and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Cat:Birds by classification and no-one ever opposed my suggestions or requested anything different for plants; User:SB Johnny came to similar conclusions over one contributor's splitting off lots of genus cats in Category:Caryophyllales, which all got re-sorted to family cats and the genus cats deleted (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants#Really odd category needs cleanup... for his request for assistance) - MPF 18:15, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching

Hi, you're getting pretty close to the top of the list for admin coaching (especially as most of the others ahead of you are inactive). I just wanted to check that you're still interested in receiving it. Let me know on my talk page and I'll assign you coaches as soon as possible. Cheers, Petros471 11:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Your coaches are User:(aeropagitica) and User:The Gerg. Hope you enjoy the coaching and find it useful. Let me know if you have any questions. Petros471 13:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi SP-KP! This is my first request to be an admin coach for Esperanza, so it's a great opportunity for everyone to learn a lot about the process. Your questions and ideas are the most important part of this, so please tell us what you want to get out of admin coaching. Are there any areas that you particularly want advice on? Rather than spreading the admin coaching around lots of user Talk pages, let's create User talk:SP-KP/admin coaching to hold the conversations by-topic. Looking forward to hearing from you soon! Regards,  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  13:56, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello! Just to let you know that I haven't forgotten about you. I have heard nothing from The Gerg, my co-coach and his userpage says that he is on a Wikibreak. We may have to ask for another coach if we hear nothing from him in the next few days, unless you are in no particular hurry?  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  21:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I aplogize for the inconvineience of being away. I was on vacation and got the dates mixed up for my vaction and when I got back! So anyway, I have been a contributer here since September 2005, and I am honored by the opportunity to teach users about Wikipedia. I think you will find this experience enjoyable to. Until later, The Gerg 02:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi SP-KP! As far as I can see your admin coaching doesn't appear to have begun. If you are still interested in receiving it, please got in contact with your coaches so they can help you out with any questions you have. If you no longer wish to receive it, let me know and I'll archive your request. Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers, Petros471 11:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ivory-billed Woodpecker

I notice you're interested in getting this article up to GA status. Have you checked out Cornell Laboratory's Birds of North America webiste? [1] While the site is subscription there are 6 bird species which are free to view without paying, one of which is the Ivory-bill, and you won't find anything more comprehensive. It could help tighten up the biology of the species section (which looks short compared to the rediscovery). Good for finding links to journal articles too. Sabine's Sunbird talk 23:16, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red-necked Grebe

You beat me to it! jimfbleak 11:25, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chew Valley SSSIs

Thanks I've now done a page for Burledge Hill. do you know of an info box for SSSIs or should there be one? — Rod talk 19:38, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I've added some data on Burledge Hill, Chew Valley Lake & Folly Farm to your List of SSSIs in Avon but I've never done an info box & don't think I have the time/skills. — Rod talk 20:42, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Info box seems OK - but how about a map image & I'd probably add the link to the English Nature citation sheet into the info box? where is the page for the master of this? — Rod talk 21:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the extras I've expanded their articles (slightly) & added them to your list. I'm surprised Nempnett Thrubwell isn't an SSSI but I can find any record of it. — Rod talk 08:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Nempnett Thrubwell In the parish, The Fairy Toot is an extensive oval barrow, formerly a chambered cairn which is a Scheduled Ancient Monument, on the national monument register as '22826'. The Fairy Toot south-southwest of Howgrove Farm is a mound 60m long, 25m wide and now 2.5m high, retained by a stone wall. Its summit is covered with ash trees and shrubs. Formerly it was considerably higher. On being opened in 1789 and essentially destroyed, it was found to contain two rows of cells, running from south to north, formed by immense stones set edgeways, and covered by others of larger dimensions. At the time it was conjectured to be a work of the Druids, but its origins are far older and probably date from the neolithic period.— Rod talk 17:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

OK on Nempnett. I've added a couple more Avon SSSIs but would appreciate your helkp with Fern species on Harptree Combe— Rod talk 19:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] albatrosses again.

I found this great reply to Penhallurick and Wink's paper that caused ruffled feathers on the albatross peer review and FAC. [2] It might be an interesting read since both papers also deals with the whole order, and I have both Procellariidae and, eventually, Storm-petrel in my sights. Incidentally, are you interested in trying to push for FA status on the Ivory -bill article? Sabine's Sunbird talk 00:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I think we should peer review Ivory-bill first, once we push it through there I'll be happy to nominate it. I will also have a stab at expanding some of the biology aspects. The fieldwork is going fine, we have pretty much finished banding albatross chicks (around 3000 of them!) and the boobies are coming up for banding now. They are nippy little bastards, more so than the albatrosses, and my arms area network of scars at the moment. Good night! Sabine's Sunbird talk

[edit] Your edit to List of SSSIs in Avon

It was the repetition filter that caught it, sorry about that -- Tawker 22:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subpages

Hi SP-KP! Since you put {{prod}}-tags on some of your user subpages, I have gone ahead and deleted them. In general, subpages of your userpage do not need to be "prodded" because the WP:CSD#User pages lists "owner request" as a speedy deletion criterion, so you can tag such pages with {{db-owner}} templates. An administrator will then usually have them deleted within a few minutes.

See you! Sjakkalle (Check!) 15:22, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:SSSI-stub

Though you should know that SSSI-stub is up for discussion/renaming/deletion at WP:SFD. Though it appears to be a viable stub-type, the name of the template and the way the category is arranged within the stub hierarchy are both problematical. In future, please follow the normal conventions and propose any new stub templates or categories prior to creation (as explained at WP:STUB), so that these sorts of problems can be sorted out beforehand. Grutness...wha? 02:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] EN descriptions for SSSIs

I've changed them slightly as I'm worried about the copyright of the EN citations - to get to them you have to click a button saying you will not abuse them (access rights etc) & we are linking to the actual document which bypassess this satge should we use a higher level one for each SSSI eg point to: http://www.english-nature.org.uk/special/sssi/sssi_details.cfm?sssi_id=1002713 rather than http://www.english-nature.org.uk/citation/citation_photo/1002713.pdf — Rod talk 10:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Appleyard's Feather-moss

After your comment about Appleyard's Feather-moss on Harptree Combe have you spotted on Arkive that "Although previously considered a distinct species and classified as Near threatened in the UK, genetic evidence published in 2005 suggests that this moss is in fact a member of the widespread moss species, Scleropodium cespitans."? — Rod talk 11:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lulsgate Quarry?

I think Lulsgate Quarry falls outside your geogrphers definition of the Chew Valley (the cup of water test) - do you think the blue line on Image:Chew Valley Map.png is right? — Rod talk 21:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Penwith peninsula

I've been following the links that lead to the Penwith peninsula article that we talking about merging and I came across the List of sites in Britain recognised for their biodiversity conservation importancepage where I notice that you've done a lot of nice work (presumably your angle for creating the peninsula article?). Anyway - I thought it might be nice to include a small potted paragraph of the sites in Penwith that you mention there for the Penwith/Penwith peninsula merged page if it goes ahead as there is no ecological information on either page at present. It wouldn't have to be very long, just a flavour of what is there and would link back into the biodiversity page for those wanting more information. I was wondering if you would be up for composing something as you obviously have the skills and knowledge? I don't think I could do it as much justice ;) Take care Mammal4 14:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SSSI stubs

Thanks for taking the time to leave a helpful comment - as you can tell, I'm very new so lots to learn. Thanks again. Jenny Wong 08:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SSSI info box

I've had a play with your Template:Infobox SSSI adding cells for image & location map - what do you think? I couldn't work out how to do a link to the EN citation sheet URL - any ideas? — Rod talk 10:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SSSI

Hi there: what is an SSSI?--Anthony.bradbury 12:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you.--Anthony.bradbury 12:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neuropean and Ruth Kelly

I am afraid that this vandal, sockpuppet and POV warrior has begun again after a couple of weeks without editing. What do you suggest? Robertsteadman 09:07, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mendip Map

The Chew Valley map Image:Chew Valley Map.png was kindly made by User:SFC9394 & if you set out the specifications of what you want I'm sure a Mendip Hills one should be too far removed. I have also been in email contact with someone from [3] asking them to take a look at the Mendip Hills pages. I've done some editing on Plaster's Green Meadows but lots of the species are red libnks - do you know if I've got the names wrong for any of them? — Rod talk 14:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer of species advice. Re: Mendip Hills, before i do any work (template etc) how is this defined? common usage, or is there a geographers definition? should we use the area of AONB, ie that at [4], which mean some overlap with Chew Valley. Any thoughts?— Rod talk 15:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Mendip Society web site looks like the AONB area - I suggest going for that. Take a look at: Template:Mendip Hills any thoughts? I will add SSSIs as I find them— Rod talk 15:57, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:SSSI-stub

Just thought I'd check whether you thought we had reached a decision now on this stub. I'm still adding it to articles at the rate of a few per day, so if we're not going down the redirect route, that's creating more work the longer we leave it.

It's still a little up in the air, but even if you continue using the current name it can be changed by bot if necessary. UK-SSSI-stub would be a little less obscure a name (though the UK is the only country which currently uses the SSSI designation, we'd have problems if anywhere else started following the British system, which is possible in Australia or NZ, say, or the Rep. of Ireland). The one thing to make sure is that the articles are double stubbed with whichever the county/country geo-stub is or struct-stub is (historic buildings may be a bit of a problem with the SSSI-stub, since they're not covered by geo-stubs, so we may need to revisit that one at some point). Grutness...wha? 08:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rodney Stoke

Hi, On your List of SSSIs in Somerset you have "Rodney Stoke" this is also the name of the village - so can we change this to "Rodney Stoke, SSSI" or similar before I do an article for the village?— Rod talk 10:21, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RK kids

I have put a comment on the RK talk page - I really don;t see why we need to name her children. [5]Robertsteadman 18:44, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cheddar SSSI's

Any ideas on the best way to deal with the Cheddar SSSIs? Your List of SSSIs in Somerset just shows the reoviour & wood but English Nature talks about the "Cheddar Complex" with about 10 ish different units. Also should we add info on these to Cheddar &/or Cheddar Gorge and Caves &/or a new page(s)? — Rod talk 10:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On July 19, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Horseshoe Bend, Shirehampton, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks. --Cactus.man ✍ 09:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mendip Hills Template

Thanks for the note re: EastonI've changed it & will sort it when I get a minute — Rod talk 20:54, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Email...

Would you mind enabling an email address? I have an article I want to email you that might help you in your efforts. Just let me know and I'll pass it along. Thanks. --LV (Dark Mark) 19:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it was just a short little article on the wart-biter. But that's fine. I guess I can try to add it myself later if I get a couple of minutes. Currently looks decent. Over the 1000 word guideline. --LV (Dark Mark) 19:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
My apologies... it's 1000 characters. Always mess that up. And copy and paste into a Word-type document is the only thing I've found. There currently is no counting tool in WP. Sorry. Peace. --LV (Dark Mark) 20:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Answered

--Yurik 21:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yurikbot

Yurikbot makes thousands of changes to Wikipedia, changes that are overall useful and important to Wikipedia. Why do you have to demand that Yurik fix your problem, instead of fixing it yourself? The FAQ is not a large page, and would explain clearly what's going wrong. All Yurikbot does is follow interwiki links and make them work all ways; the Italian page is linked to the English page, so the English page should link to the Italian page. All you have to do is change the Italian page.--Prosfilaes 06:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category

I noticed that you already made all the changes. Great. I thought a bot might do it. PS I added a question to your discussion with Yurik, maybe I can help there. Agathoclea 20:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

FYI, I am going to de-list your Gordano → Gordano Valley move request. The steps for requesting a page move were not followed so no one else had a chance to see or vote on the request. Those steps put the article in a category and make a convenient place to vote. Feel free to re-list the request. —Wknight94 (talk) 03:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Procellariidae

I've thrown the helpless petrels and shearwaters to peer review, and since you did such a great job nitpicking Albatross I was hoping you could do the same again! Sabine's Sunbird talk 09:02, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

If that was you on a go-slow I shudder to think what you'll be like when you really get started ripping into the article. Still, it was good, really cleaning up. I'm a triffle worried about the taxonomy section, given as how procellariid taxonomy makes albatross taxonomy seem quite well ordered, and my inability to read several crucial papers. Still, thanks for prying yourself away from the sun long enough to help. I'm kind of jealous, here I am in Hawaii and it's warmer back home in England. Go figure! Sabine's Sunbird talk 08:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FAC

I've nominated Procellariidae, so if you've got time please come and either shoot it or support it. Ta! Sabine's Sunbird talk 08:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC) (ps hows the weather in blighty now?)

  • I fixed the section you commented on. Thanks for all your edits to the page! Sabine's Sunbird talk 07:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Penwith Ecology

Hi, I've finished merging Penwith peninsula into Penwith so anytime your ready would be a good time for that paragraph that we talked about before. Also any comments on how to make the article better are more than welcome. Cheers :) Mammal4 10:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Looking forward to it - take care Mammal4 21:31, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Any progress with that Penwith section? any help you need just ask. Cheers Mammal4 10:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pale-headed Rosella

What is your authority for splitting? The quoted reference (Simpson and Day 7th Ed) is current, and has them lumped. Granted, the HANZAB list does not, but it is much older (last update 2002). This is a recent change in taxonomy.--Glen Fergus 00:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SSSI stubs

As far as I know there's no problem, but I'm not the final authority on these things! Go ahead and make the redirect if you want. Grutness...wha? 09:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your GA nomination

Please make sure to provide a helpful edit summary (per the instructions and big red box) when editing the nominations list in future. This will help us keep the Good Articles wikiproject running more efficiently. Thanks.  -- Run!  11:11, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References in List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Avon

I've changed the way we were doing references in the Avon list. If you could comment that would be good. Personally I think it solves some of the problems of having a huge list of inline citations which took up more space. It also allows inline citations to be used for other references and the last column can be links to the maps. Suicidalhamster 15:00, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for not replying on the formatng of this list sooner I've been away. Do you think the Avon SSSI list is now stable? ie should we apply the same column headings etc to Somerset?— Rod talk 19:23, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clackmannan

I have no question about your good faith; I also see no reason to keep the category if we have no articles that belong in it. When you find one, you can add the correct form to that article as a new category. Septentrionalis 21:58, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, striking it out, somewhat as I did. This preserves the record. Similarly, if you want to alter talk-page comments, especially after someone has replied to them, it is usual to use <s> and </s> and [bracket] additions. Septentrionalis 22:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleveland SSSI stubs

Hi - any chance you can use either Durham-geo-stub or NorthYorkshire-geo-stub for any new Cleveland SSSI stubs you make? UK-geo-stub is really only for things in more than one of the countries that make up the UK (similarly, England-geo-stub is only for places crossing several county boundaries). Cheers, Grutness...wha? 01:26, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

BTW, the grid references for at least one of the ones you've done is wrong - unless Lovell Hill Pools is 150km off the Northumberland coast! Grutness...wha? 01:41, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Are you sure? NZ596189 is taken from the EN citation sheet and on OS Get a map goes straight to the site. Odd - I used OS Get a map and ended up with a location 150 km east of Alnwick! Grutness...wha? 06:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleveland

Yeah I can add the acres. We should probably wait until Avon has got through FLC (fingers crossed!) before nominating so we dont have more than one on the go. - Suicidalhamster 23:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Somerset SSSIs confusion

Hi, Can I ask for a bit of help... Doing the List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Somerset I found an entry for Quantocks & Quants I've deleted Quantocks but this means the numbering is wrong. Checking this I found that Cheddar Complex isn't in the EN list for Somerset but does have a data sheet I am now very confused & would be grateful for any advice/sorting. — Rod talk 19:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks I'd forgotten we'd changed "The" in the titles — Rod talk 19:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't thinking about featured list yet & know loads of red links have to turn blue before we can go for that - however I will work on that another day!— Rod talk 21:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yanal Bog

They are not a prerequisite and neither are images, but they are still highly recommended. You still only have one source and it looks like you copied information from it. Add maps, photos. Find new sources for it. Your site description portion only has one sentence. The lead is weak. I am pretty sure you can talk about more than just Site Description and Biological Interest. Currently, this article has 0% for Good Article. I would focus more on it not being deleted at this point actually. --GoOdCoNtEnT 08:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yanal Bog again

Thanks for your reply. To address your points:

They are not a prerequisite and neither are images, but they are still highly recommended.

OK, so I think you are saying that these do not prevent GA status. Tell me if that's wrong.

You still only have one source and it looks like you copied information from it.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Sure, I took information from the source listed, but that's what sources are for. Can you expand on this?


The lead should be longer and include more information about the bog. It should include information about how it is special, different, etc.. Try looking for print sources. Some will have information about it. Also, there is a site about Conservation Policy. [6] Everything has a history. You just have to do more research. Currently, this page is close to be considered to be a stub. Stubs cannot be good articles. Good articles can be short but they still have to be broad. One source , which seems to be biased toward environmental groups, is not enough for such an article to get GA status. Good referencing is crucial, period. Pictures and inline citations are not necessary for GA status, but they increase the quality of an article significantly, greatly increasing its GA chances. I believe that for such a topic such as a waterbody, there have to be pictures. You can try to find a local photographer to take pictures for you or look at database. Just do research. Inline citations will help reviewers know from where information came from. Also, your page needs copy-editing. It has red links all over it and it appears to be directly copied from the source at some points. (It is ok to do it if you have inline citations though). --GoOdCoNtEnT 19:03, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree on all of your comments except that:

  • You need a map or satellite photo [7]
  • You never mentioned the chemical treatement in the article.

Continue doing research. Remember that broadness is a necessity for an article, and photos are highly recommended. I can let our article slide without photos but I cannot without broadness. Please look again at the requirements. WP:WIAGA --GoOdCoNtEnT 22:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Lake Lure, North Carolina is an example. I think there is more that can be stated about it though. --GoOdCoNtEnT 23:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
A regional map would be better, and try to find a satellite photo (that would be great). But if you can't find anything about than the UK map with a dot, go ahead with it. --GoOdCoNtEnT 23:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barn

Looks a lot better, thanks for your work. --Peta 00:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 11 August 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Paston Great Barn , which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Tweaked the tagline some more; hope it's ok. Thanks for the contribution, and I look forward to the DYK on Barbastelle soon! -- Samir धर्म 06:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Satelite Image

The Staelite image of Chew Valley was by User:Astrokey44 who said it was easy & copyright free - may be able to do similar for other areas. — Rod talk 07:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ladies Spring Wood (S. Yorks) - SSSI?

I got the info from a detailed map and information board by Beauchief Abbey. That's my main reference for most of the info but it's obviously a bit difficult to verify unless you actually go out there yourself. On the other hand, a quick google finds a few mentions:

These probably aren't authoritative enough to be certain, but I think they're enough to make it likely. I think. --VinceBowdren 18:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Ladies Spring Wood does seem to be also called Totley wood. [8] Not something I knew before, and its not mentioned on the information board on site, but but there's certainly no other wood around Totley laying claim to the name. --VinceBowdren 19:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AKKive

There are over 470 links to ARKive on wikipedia, most were added by one IP . Although ARKive is doing something useful they are also soliciting donations. I don't really think there is much reason to link there unless they provide images that we don't have.--Peta 09:39, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

  • No problem, but if you do happen across some other resources include them too.--Peta 09:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SSSI Cleveland

Sorry I've been away for a bit and will be for another week so wont be able to help with Cleveland FLC. The acres data does indeed come from the English nature citation sheets, hope this helps with the FLC. Great to see Avon is now featured! Suicidalhamster 11:32, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chew Valley & the front page

Hi, as you may have spotted Chew Valley is to be on the front page next week. I'm going to be away on holiday & will have no web access so will not be able to counter any vandalism etc - would you be able to keep an eye on the page for me before & during 31st August? — Rod talk 14:42, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 31 August 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Citrine Forktail, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Srikeit (Talk | Email) 04:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit]  ?FLC Somerset SSSIs

Now that Avon & Cleveland lists of SSSIs have reached featured list status do you think I should nominate List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Somerset? Well over 75% of links have changed from red to blue & I've followed the formatting from the debates on the other ones. — Rod talk 07:58, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wildlife & the K&A Canal

Hi, I've recently put Kennet and Avon Canal up as a featured article candidate & one of the reasons for opposition was the article as a whole is not comprehensive, with a specific comment about wildlife conservation. I will address some of the other queries, but wondered with your knowledge of List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Wiltshire etc whether you could add anything? All I remember when boating along was the large number of Herons & a few Kingfishers but I don't know the species or anything - I'm sure there is more that could be said if you were willing? — Rod talk 11:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Comedian/comedienne

Hi SP-KP,

I wondered if you had a source which you could point me at which says that British usage tends to "comedienne" for female comedians...

I know it's not kosher, but how about a Google search for ["Joyce Grenfell" comedienne]...?  (I'd say retaining the use of comedienne/actress/etc useful for those instances where names are unisex, but appreciate that I'm probably in a minority.)  Yours, David Kernow (talk) 18:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
PS Just revisited the page and saw my unforgiving edit summary – apologies!

[edit] Otheruses on Horseshoe Bend, Arizona?

Just curious, why put an otheruses link on Horseshoe Bend, Arizona? It's not like somebody typing "Horseshoe Bend, Arizona" is looking for a different page. -- Moondigger 20:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Makes sense. I'm thinking that its placement at the top of the article is appropriate when used for disambiguation, and inappropriate when used in the way you intend. Can an otheruses tag be placed elsewhere in an article, or does Wiki policy require it be at the top? -- Moondigger 22:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know

Updated DYK query On 2 November 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Rex Graham nature reserve, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 08:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NVC

No discussion is necessary. Please see WP:MOS, WP:NC and their various subpages. Chris talk back 17:09, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

A good start would be the "nutshell" box on WP:NC. We title articles by what something is called, rather than what it is. For instance, there is an article at M6 motorway as opposed to M6 motorway (Coventry to Carlisle via Preston and Lancaster). Though, in all fairness, most of the NVC articles should be merged into a smaller series, the "X in the NVC" series, but with shorter titles. Chris talk back 18:04, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
I think I got most of them (unless the redlinks on {{NVC}} are mispointed), but I would probably look to merge the individual items up to list-like articles, e.g. one article for the whole M-series listing the individiual communities and their contents. Chris talk back 18:28, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
S1 and M20 have edit history (in the case of M20, it's a redirect not pointing to the page I'm moving from), so will need an admin to dispose of the redirects first. Chris talk back 19:33, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cox's Sandpiper

There are a few things you can do to bring this article to GA status. They are:

  1. Add inline citations to bring the article to meet WP:WIAGA criteria 2b.
  2. Add a taxobox.
  3. Follow the Manual of Style heading guideline.
  4. If possible add a few pictures to enrich the article.

Hope this helps and feel free to relist the article an WP:GAN soon Tarret 00:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

By inline citations we need footnotes to help verify and prove what is and isn't original research. This is because as according to WP:CITE "The Harvard referencing system places a partial citation". Everything otherwise looks good. Feel free to renominate the article at WP:GAN when it is ready.

As to your reply all you need to do is convert the references to footnotes. Of course a few web references would improve the article alot further but thats up to you. Tarret 22:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
The references look good, feel free to put it back up at WP:GAN when ready. Tarret 23:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CVL - Ramsar status?

I was looking at a planning application today v near the lake & the environmental survey attached to the proposals (under associated documents - NB only accesible with IE), in amongst stuff about badgers, bats & dormice, includes the paragraph "There is a single site within 1km of the site. Chew Valley Lake is of international importance, designated as a Ramsar site (under the Ramsar convention) and Special Protection Area (SPA) for migratory birds." — Rod talk 22:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

OK shall I remove it or will you? I note most of that list in England are not on Ramsar list of wetlands of international importance, should they also be added to individual pages eg Somerset Levels & Moors ? — Rod talk 19:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rude place name

I'm surprised you don't have Hole of Horcum (a signposted geographical landmark in the north York Moors of the UK) in your list of strange places

It sounds rude if you speak it aloud. It sounds like "hole of whore, cum". You can see where it is at http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?GridE=484500&GridN=493500&scale=25000
87.113.21.206 21:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] blackcap

I resisted the temptation to add "refreshing" to your last edit (: jimfbleak 13:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ben Nevis

Hi SP-KP,

Looks to me like you only removed one POV-ish word. :-) But I really wasn't so worried about POV, actually. It's about a geographical location; not too many debates etc. A little bit of a positive spin is somewhat forgivable, as long as it doesn't descend it abject boosterism. :-) So don't worry about this.

There are still 9 [citation needed] tags on the article. GA is not FA, as everyone likes to say, but 9 is just too many. Please knock some of those out. I won't say how many.. but..certainly at least 5. All would be better.

I just noticed something else, but this will take only about 3 minutes to fix: the lead should mention some of the other topics covered in the article. Here I'm talking about adding perhaps three sentences max to the lead, perhaps only two sentences. Look at the article, find a couple of the more important sections that are completly unmentioned in the lead, and mention them. I'm not even talking about mentioning every section here. Just something about 1 or 2 more. A tiny bit more complete.

Cheers, --Ling.Nut 20:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NVC, again

Hi SP-KP, and MANY MANY THANKS for taking up this project in my enforced absence, basically my update is to say that I have established a web-space at sourceforge with a view to creating some kind of querying system, ie an application, something that obviously cannot be done on Wikipedia! --Jkh.gr 21:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tuley tube

Hello SP-KP. I recently made a couple of small edits to this page (I think you started the article), and I've since been pondering the use of 'Tuley tube' as the title. I feel that the more commonly used name for these objects is 'Tree shelter', certainly in forestry and arb circles. Therefore I propose changing the name of the article. I would welcome your thoughts.The Boy that time forgot 20:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the quick response.The Boy that time forgot 21:15, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editor's Index to Wikipedia

I've taken your page, User:SP-KP/Wikipedia Topics, and used it as the basis for an index. I want to thank you for the work that went into that (since it made what I did much easier). So if you're interested, please take a look at User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia. Comments are welcome (and, of course, feel free to edit). There are a lot of rough edges (minor, I think): I've not checked all the links; I'd like a lot more brief descriptions on the lines, and I know I've missed pages, though I really believe that this is at least 60% of the way to having all the important subjects and links to pages within the index.

And, of course, if something similar is available somewhere else, in finished or unfinished form, I'd be really interested in that. Thanks. John Broughton | Talk 19:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Theory of Deadly Initials

I thought you'd be interested in the recent edits I made to the Theory of Deadly Initials article, which you labeled as "patent nonsense" back in June. I've added citations to the two published scientific papers mentioned in the article. So whatever it is, it's not patent nonsense. -- Dominus 16:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Oops, I must have misread the history listing. Thanks for the correction. -- Dominus 18:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching?

Are you still interested in admin coaching? A while back you were paired with User:(aeropagitica) and another admin who has since retired. Please let me know if you still want to be coached, and contact (aeropagitica) if you wish to begin again. Thank you, Fang Aili talk 18:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of people who became famous through being terminally ill

In case you hadn't noticed, List of people who became famous through being terminally ill has been proposed for deletion. NickelShoe (Talk) 05:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

An edit conflict meant I didn't get a chance to reply to your question before the discussion got closed:
  • I totally agree – if it was "an illness" then it could be useful for sure. However, "terminal illness" is too general and hard to define to be useful IMO. What connects someone in a PVS, an AIDS activist and a child dying for want of a new liver? The first got noticed due to controversy, the second promoted the cause themselves and the third was covered by a TV program prone to soppy heartache stories. By restricting the list to those who became famous for something they shortly then died of, you end up with a study of fleeting fame (but without the study, since it is just a bare list). In terms of salvage: well, there is a List of HIV-positive people with sections on activists, criminal infection and scientifically notable cases. Persistent vegetative state has a list of notable cases that (with one exception) are all notable solely for being in a PVS. Colin°Talk 20:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

A post-deletion discuss can be found here: User talk:SP-KP/Terminally_Ill SP-KP 18:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] British Birds Rarities Committee sources

Thanks for asking. Response to Question is here. User_talk:Jeepday#British_Birds_Rarities_Committee_sources Jeepday 16:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heuglin's Gull

Thanks! What I really wanted to know was which (if any) of the various options is generally accepted by ornithologists... or failing that, what the basis for the controversy might be. Cheers, -- Visviva 23:47, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References, etc.

Hi SP-KP. When adding references or {{fact}} tags, could you please put them after punctuation such as full stops and commas. This is the recommended style, and looks much better. Thanks, JPD (talk) 17:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] list of first female political office holders

--AnselmoD79 07:37, 14 January 2007 (UTC) This is coming along nicely. I am working on a similar topic that I think would be good to try pair together and perhaps work together as well. My page is "Influential Women" and currently is broken down by Notable firsts, Country, Profession. I just started it so it needs a good deal of work, but it seems like this could work well together. I am a bit new to this so I am sorry if I posted in the wrong place.

[edit] Flora of Beacon Hill

When descibing ash of Beacon Hill, do you mean ash tree? or Sorbus aucuparia / mountain ash / rowan? I'm just tracking down loose disambiguation ends. Thanks! --Knulclunk 04:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whitton Bridge Pasture

Would it be possible for you to look over Whitton Bridge Pasture article I've been working on. Thinking of nominating it for Good Article so any advice would be much appreciated. Many thanks. - Suicidalhamster 23:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mendip Hills

Hi, I've been doing some editing of Mendip Hills & have put it up for peer review (comments welcome) prior to going for FA status. Can I pick your expert knowledge... in doing it I've come accross the British National Vegetation Classification which I know nothing about. The Mendips article says "There are three nationally important semi-natural habitats which are characteristic of the area: Ash-Maple woodland (often with abundant small-leafed lime (Tilia), Calcareous grassland and Mesotrophic grassland. Much of the Mendip Hills is open calcareous grassland which supports a large variety of wild flowering plants and insects. Grazing by rabbits (Lagomorpha), sheep (Ovis aries) and cattle maintains the grassland habitat. Some of the area is deciduous ancient woodland."

Some bits link to the BNVC system & some don't. Would you be kind enough to take a look (particularly at the ecology section) & check I'm getting this right & whether I should be using more specific bits of the classification system. Thanks.— Rod talk 21:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question on use of "endemic"

Could you please explain the difference between "endemic" and "restricted-range endemic"? Dr. Submillimeter 16:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2007 in birding and ornithology

Hi. I started 2007 in birding and ornithology Andy Mabbett 20:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] T & A D Poyser

You might be interested in T & A D Poyser/ Andy Mabbett 21:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stonechat

Hello. I was surfing through the North American bird list doing some clean up and came upon the link to the Stonechat Saxicola torquatus which has bee recorded in Alaska. When I read through the article, I noticed the bird had been broken into other species. The DNA evidence looks compelling, but is it premature to split the species? None of the major ornithologist organizations have yet to officially recognize any of the subspecies as species yet. I was going to attempt some edits to make it more accurate, but since it was primarily a Eurasian bird, I thought I'd defer to someone across the pond. Not sure if you knew more, or whether it was worth a look.............Pmeleski 03:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Wiltshire

Just to let you know that List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Wiltshire is on featured list candidates seeing as you did most of the work getting it there! Feel free to comment. Thanks - Suicidalhamster

[edit] FZS

You may wish to make use of Category:Fellows of the Zoological Society of London. Andy Mabbett 22:46, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

To answer your question, see also Category:Fellows of learned societies of the United Kingdom Andy Mabbett 23:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:List of plant communities in the British National Vegetation Classification#Upward merging

There is no need to create an article for each entry in the classification. Have you considered merging them upward to one page for each category, as on this page? Chris cheese whine 23:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

In the meantime, until you have the time to address this on talkj page, please stop adding new articles for each individual entry in the classification. Chris cheese whine 04:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, you seem to be misunderstanding how things work around here. When someone is questioning the addition of a large amount of material, you stop adding it as a matter of course until the issue is resolved. I can't find any record of the consensus you speak of. In fact, the only things I can find support not having a separate article on every single entry in the classification (including amongst others WP:NOT a directory). Chris cheese whine 17:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
So, why haven't you responded to the discussion I've linked above? Chris cheese whine 17:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
It's at the bottom of the page, under "Upward merging" (as the link suggests). Chris cheese whine 17:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I refer the honorable member to the answer I gave some moments ago. If you still can't find it, let me know, and I'll sign you up for some computer classes and an eye test. Chris cheese whine 17:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, seriously, this isn't funny. STOP creating these articles until this point is resolved on that talk page. Chris cheese whine 03:00, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

"I've said I'm happy to engage with you in a discussion on this." So why aren't you? Click on the link above. If it really causes you that much trouble to find it, I can surround it with flashing lights and render it in a massive font, but if you don't respond, I will have to resort to blanket reverting your additions. Chris cheese whine 08:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mendip Hills FAC

Thanks for your edits of Mendip Hills. I have now put it up as a Featured Article Candidate & comments, support or opposition is being recorded at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mendip Hills.— Rod talk 10:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment - what appears in the lead that isn't elsewhere?. I've left the NVC links as is but if you think it needs improving please let me know. — Rod talk 11:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification- I've done a bit about AONB v National park, but I'm not sure how to address the comment re "those interested in natural history". I would also like a map but can't make one & can't find a free one I can use. You are right about the NVC link as I couldn't find suitable NVC pages for the other types of vegetation.— Rod talk 12:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New creations

More new (and expanded) articles and categories, for your enjoyment:

Regards, Andy Mabbett 22:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My revert

By the time you read this message it will be done. (On RC Patrol, as soon as I clicked the rollback button, I wished that I hadn't).  ~Steptrip 17:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Since you seem to know a lot about the subject of Lobella erinus, do you think that I should move the page to "Lobella Erinus" with a capital "e" in the title?  ~Steptrip 17:43, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm... You're right. Come to think of it, I can't believe that I didn't notice the pattern before (my parents own a pet store and I do spend a little time researching animals, don't ask me why :-)  ~Steptrip 17:49, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bot-assisted new article announcements

Hi SP-KP! I think you might be interested in

User:AlexNewArtBot/PlantsSearchResult
Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/New articles

Colchicum 23:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] World Heritage template

Hi! I created a template for World Heritage Sites: {{Infobox World Heritage Site}}. Since many of the protected areas are also recognized as World Heritage Sites, I thought that it will be appropriate to forward this template here, and hopefully, for the community to help improve the template. Someone mentioned that the footnotes are unclear (i.e. why the need to emphasize "official" there). It's because the official name (or the name as inscribed on the List) is different from what we usually know. And the Region also has footnote to tackle specifically the classification of those regions which may fall ambiguously between two continents (e.g. those in Russia, Turkey, Cyprus, etc.). In addition, I think that the info provided in the template is much like a jargon for most readers since it box is more of use for internal references in the World Heritage program. I hope that the community will help improve the template and make it more relevant to the readers of wikipedia in general. Thanks. Joey80 13:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bird article request page sub-divided

I've sub-divided Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/Article requests. Note especially the books section! Andy Mabbett 21:02, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Slender billed curlew

Good luck. It probably won't be easy as I was unable to find any useful articles in web-of-science. I'll review it over the weekend. Sabine's Sunbird talk 23:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll see if Shorebirds has anything useful. jimfbleak 05:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
It looks good (though as you know it won't look Good unless someone can find a picture). I may have a few tiny tweaks this weekend. —JerryFriedman 22:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
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