Talk:Southern Ndebele language
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but this seems to be more about the ethnic group than the language itself. Maybe it should go under Ndebele!
- I've been trying to relieve some of the ambiguity that surrounds the Ndebele peoples and languages of Zimbabwe and South Africa. If nobody has any objections, I'll create a new Ndebele people page and move some of the cultural content from this article there, leaving the language info here Humansdorpie 22:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Huh?? O_o
This article seems awfully confused. Is the language described here a "Sotho-Tswana language" or is it from the "Nguni group of the Bantu languages"??
Also, is this the isiNdebele that's listed in the Constitution, or a different language with the same name? If not then the Languages of South Africa template should be removed.
Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 20:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
It seems to be talking about 3 different languages. One is a Sesotho language, another is an Nguni language belonging to the same sub-family ("Tekela"?) as SiSwati, and the last is an official South African language (which, as personal experience from watching the SABC 1 news at 18:00 proves, does not sound like SiSwati or a Sesotho language, but rather isiZulu with a few extra words and sounds and mispronounced click consonants).
Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 21:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- See IsiNdebele - UNESCO WORLD LANGUAGES REPORT SURVEY QUESTIONNAIRE , a good source. The article is confusing and should be changed. I don't think there's a "Sotho" language called "Ndebele". This seems to be confusion due to the fact that most Ndebele speak N. Sotho as well.
- I wonder if a local version of the famous aphorism "אַ שפראַך איז אַ דיאַלעקט מיט אַן אַרמײ און פֿלאָט" might be "A language is a dialect with a government-sponsored radio station and TV news bulletin!"
- OK, this has been fun, but I've been on WP waaay too much lately —Batamtig 02:02, 29 December 2006 (UTC)