Talk:Southern Connecticut State University
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I agree. This article sounds like an advertisement for the school. Comparing it to other CSU schools, like Central Connecticut State University and Western Connecticut State University, the article lacks professional style.
Elwood64151 04:17, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
It looks like some of the changes that have been made recently have removed some of the "PR" sheen from the page - I'm hoping to have more time coming up to do more to the page.
Agerstein 15:14, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Virtually all the text in this article is plagiarized, with words slightly audited. This is still illegal plagiarism!!! Rpgman456 02:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
The content of the section you're discussing was here when I started editing this page, however, given that this is the history of the college, is it possible that the Conntact page you link to is the one plagiarizing? The site seems to be some kind of aggregator. The page that they have for the University's "business" [1] contains incorrect and out of date info. In short, I wonder if anything on the site can be trusted.
I took the first paragraph of the text that is being contested and did a Google search on it: [2] and found four links: this wiki page, something on answers.com, something on groupstate.com and an ebay auction.
Doing the same thing with the second paragraph [3] reveals 8 results.
The point? It's all amazingly similar to some of the pages from the University's own website [4]. At this point, it's entirely possible - and I would say probable - that the oral history of the University, along with the "official" history, are widely disseminated, both online and in peoples heads, especially in the New Haven area. This website is based in New Haven. Do the match.
The history that was listed is the history of the school - there are various versions of it, but they are going to be very similar. I checked the version on this page against the version you are claiming is infringed on, and against the schools website:
Conntact version: Southern Connecticut State University
Founded as the New Haven Normal School, Southern Connecticut State University traces its roots to September 11, 1893 when three teachers and 84 students met at the Skinner School in New Haven to create a two-year teacher training school. The Skinner School served as home for the normal school until 1896, when it moved into a new building at 2 Howe Street. There it remained and grew until 1953, when it relocated to its present Crescent Street location. In 1937 the school changed its name to New Haven State Teacher's College, becoming a four-year institution with the power to grant bachelor's degrees. In 1947 Southern collaborated with Yale University's department of education to offer a graduate program leading to a master of science degree. In 1954, with Southern changing to meet the needs of its students and society, the state's Board of Education authorized the institution to assume unilateral responsibility for this graduate program. In 1959, six years after the institution moved to the Crescent Street campus, state legislation expanded Southern's offerings to include liberal arts programs leading to bachelor's degrees in the arts and sciences. This same legislation reorganized the school and renamed it Southern Connecticut State College. Over the next 24 years Southern grew, modernized and diversified, expanding its undergraduate and graduate programs and opening up entirely new fields of study and research. In March 1983, reflecting the increasing comprehensiveness of its academic offerings, the school was renamed Southern Connecticut State University. The same month it became part of the Connecticut State University system.
The institution that later became Southern Connecticut State University came into being on September 11, 1893 as the New Haven State Normal School, when three teachers and 84 students met in New Haven to create a two-year teacher training school. In 1937, Southern became a four-year college with the power to grant the bachelor's degree. Ten years later, Southern joined with Yale University's department of education to offer a graduate program leading to a master of science degree. In 1954, with Southern changing to meet the needs of its students and society, the State Board of Education authorized the institution - by then known as New Haven State Teachers College - to assume complete responsibility for this graduate program. In 1959, six years after the institution had moved to its present location on Crescent Street, state legislation expanded Southern's offerings to include liberal arts programs leading to bachelor's degrees in the arts and sciences. This same legislation reorganized the school and renamed it Southern Connecticut State College. For the next 24 years, Southern grew, modernized, and diversified, expanding its undergraduate and graduate programs. Then, in March 1983, Southern Connecticut State College was rechristened Southern Connecticut State University.
Finally, from the schools website
Life began for Southern Connecticut State University on September 11, 1893, when three teachers and 84 students met at the old Skinner School in New Haven to create a two-year teacher training school, New Haven State Normal School. By 1937, Southern had grown into a four-year college with the power to grant bachelor's degrees. Ten years later, Southern teamed up with Yale University's Department of Education to offer a master of science degree. In 1954, the State Board of Education authorized the institution - then known as New Haven State Teachers College - to assume complete responsibility for this graduate program. In 1959, six years after the institution had moved to its present location on Crescent Street, state legislation expanded Southern's offerings to include liberal arts programs leading to bachelor's degrees in the arts and sciences. At the same time, New Haven State Teachers College became Southern Connecticut State College. For the next 24 years, Southern grew, modernized, and diversified, expanding its undergraduate and graduate programs and opening up entirely new fields of study and research. But March 1983 brought even greater changes: Southern Connecticut State College was rechristened Southern Connecticut State University, and made part of the Connecticut State University System, along with Central Connecticut State University in New Britain, Eastern Connecticut State University in Willimantic, and Western Connecticut State University in Danbury.
While I will grant you that it does appear that some of the text on the Wiki page was pulled from the Conntact article, some of the Conntact article seems to have been pulled from the schools website.
It would seem that Conntact might not actually be the original source, seeing as how some of their text appears verbatim in the schools website. Given that, I ask that the original version be left the way it is.
Agerstein 17:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
