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[edit] First sentance

The opening sentance of the article "Southpark is about four -foul mouthed- fourth grade school boys" struck me as needing adjustment, in the form of the "foul mouthed" section being removed. I would argue that referring to the characters as foul-mouthed in the opening sentance is superfluous, considering that a good deal of the rest of the article is devoted to analyzing the vulgarity of the show (and additionally, the vulgarity of the central characters is not by any means atypical for boys in that age group). In addition, are the characters really fourth-graders? IIRC, they're supposed to be 8 years old, Mr. Garrison was identified as a teacher of third grade, and fourth graders are typically 9-10 years of age. I could be wrong though, on that point, so I didn't change it.

-wgw2024

The characters are in the third grade up until season 4 episode 11. From then on the boys are in the forth grade.80.47.111.117 01:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Links

So, I know of this website where you can watch any SP episode ever made. You can even watch the movie and lots of bonus stuff. Would it be appropriate to add it into the external links section? I'm not sure. Irish rover 11:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

It would be an obvious copyright violation, very much not appropriate. - Ugliness Man 07:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, actually the site that he's probably referring to doesn't actually host the files, they just link to them. It's not illegal, at least i don't think there has been any legal case about that. (Just like i never heard about any Bittorent tracker being shut down in the USA by court). But sure, since everything is controlled by the media anyway, not adding the link would probably be the right choice. Ran4 01:45, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

The site consists of many youtube, myspace video, and many other video hosting sites. Irish rover 00:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Too Serius

The author(s) of this article have completely missed the point of Southpark and all of Parker/Stone's work: To make fun of as many people, cultures, and societies as possible in as many ways as possible. It should be fairly obvious to any viewer of Southpark that Matt and Trey are not trying to make statements about society or express their religious beliefs (as if they have any.) These guys are all about the humor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.166.94.171 (talk) 03:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC).

There are many problems with this statement, but I'll break it down into the two that immediately come to mind:
  • First of all, you are stating an opinion, your personal interpretation of their intentions. You can use the word "obvious", but what that really means is that that's how you interpret it, and you think that anyone who feels differently is "wrong". That's not how it works in the real world. If you want to debate a point of fact, please do, but one lone voice opposing general consensus isn't going to make much of an impression, especially when that lone voice can't spell "serious".
  • Second, your position has been contradicted by statements made by Matt and Trey themselves. It's true that they've expressed concern that some of their material is taken more seriously than intended, but they have also confirmed a variety of political and religious views they hold personally, and also confirmed the influence these views have had on their stories, as well as the resulting discussion they hoped would come from people reacting to the episodes.
If you have a citeable source that says that Matt and Trey have plainly stated that none of their subject matter is to be taken seriously, please cite it. However, your personal opinion is not a citeable source, and at this point should have no direct effect on this article. - Ugliness Man 05:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Freedom

I think that we could include the fact that the children in the show have a large amount of freedom in travelling. They seem to be able to go wherever thay want, in episodes such as Cartoon Wars and The Passion of the Jew, without any interference by their parents. This is quite different from neglect, as, even though the kids care for the children more or less, the kids never seem to ask them for permission to go to another town or city and the parents never seem to prohibit them to do it or even know about it.--Orthologist 19:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The parents in South Park are incompetent half of the time. I bet that they don't even know their kids are gone half the time.Kritish5951 05:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Misrepresenting Cathoilcs

Repeatedly, the area documenting South Park's misrepresentation of Roman Catholic views on Evolution has been altered. Claiming that the reference was to show the views "of several Catholics" is not supported by fact and is not NPOV. The Catholic Church has an official position, which is documented, the show's transcript, which is also a matter of provable fact, contradicts it. The show could have used a character from a Bible-literalist denomination. It did not.

24.215.145.136 05:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] whats

whats the leaders of the 6 grades name

hamburger dan

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