Talk:Sorry (Madonna song)

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[edit] Samples

There are NO samples in Sorry at all. Please do not write this again or you will be banned from editing for posting fake information.

Her producer said they sampled the Jackson 5 on "Sorry", and the song itself is proof that they sampled the bassline from "Can You Feel It?". The only thing is it's not as noticable in "Sorry" as it is in "Material Girl", where she blantantly stole the bassline from CYFI.Street walker 11:59, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

They are all rumours, The bassline is based on the song but is NOT exactly the same. You are wrong deal with it and do NOT paste fake information. How are people supposed to know what is going on? Stuart Price has not said they sampled Jackson 5 he has been quoted as well as Madonna in saying that they "LISTENED" to Jackson 5 as well as others! The ONLY sample on the whole album Confessions on a Dancefloor is "Hung Up" Please do not do this again as it is wrong and legal action could be comissioned.

So they "listened" to it, and drew inspiration from it? That's a nice way of saying they stole it. Legal action can't be taken because someone things a song sounds like another song, give me a break. But I do tell you this, if Madonna doesn't re-issue the album and single with credit going to Michael and Jackie Jackson's "Can You Feel It", then she should expect legal action against her.Street walker 23:44, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
She didn't, so there. Paul75 21:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Did not steel, Used as a template. The sound is different to the song CYFI. That is all its finnished. Michael Jackson can not sue as it is different enough. Songs are allowed to be similar. Michael Jackson will not even notice he is dead to the world atm. You will be able to be sued for making accusations that are not true. Check with Californian law!

As if Material Girl is anything like CYFI you really must be Deaf or really really un-educated.

Either you are deaf and uneducated, or you haven't heard the songs in question.

Street walker 23:44, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Tenous similarity like a lot of pop songs sound similiarPaul75 21:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Can confirm there are no offical samples used on this song (ref UK MCPS licensing). However the bassline bears a closer resemblance to "Substance" by Dot Allison than the Jackson 5 work discussed above. --Katstevens 14:14, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Single cover

Hi I updated some information and cleaned up a little. The single cover image has to be replaced I do not know how to change it as someone has removed it. The proper cover is also available.

In the song madonna sings:Ik ben dronken,which means:I'm drunk,she wanted to say:Ik ben droevig,which means:I'm sad,but that isn't the right translation for the word sorry,The right translation for I'm sorry is:Het spijt me

Next time, sign talk pages with four pintas at the end of your statement...72.130.198.232 And proper punctation...

  • That wasn't me, but I added the same information to the article. --Halal 14:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
  • P.S. She butchers the Polish pronunciation of "Przepraszam" too, although it doesn't really lead to funny results. --Halal 21:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] released in december....?

this sounds highly unlikely

i mean , hung up was only released in november , and a new single the next month seems far too soon , i think that much be a mistake , i mean , the video hans't even been filmed yet and it has 3 weeks (at this point in time) until release in austaralia.......

singles are normally released every 3 months , witch makes feburary 2006 a much more likely release time than december 15th

and why would it be released on december 15th in australia , but 2 months later in the uk.....she has more sucess in the uk, so why delay a release there? , plus why release an australian release date , but not even one for the usa? , this sounds fake to me.....

and where esactly was all this "confirmed"......?

This has not been "confirmed" it is an observation of a report in an Australian newspaper. Sorry started airplay on the 24th November in Australia in preparation for its release. As to why it is released first in Australia before the rest of the world I can not answer. Generally singles are 3 months apart... there is no rule saying they can't be a month apart. Madonna is very successful in Australia. The video is being filmed in London.... the Hung up Video was filmed days before its release.

[edit] Song sample

---> "The song samples the bass line of the Michael and Jackie Jackson penned, "Can You Feel It", from the Jackson's 1984 release, Victory."

I have removed this until someone can confirm that this song is sampled. The album notes do not credit it and as far as I know Madonna hasn't confirmed the sample. Underneath-it-All 03:53, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

The wrong information comes from journalists at The Sun. They compared Madonnas album tracks with known songs and noticed that "Sorry" has a similar bass line - but not the same. --Red-Blue-White 12:45, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! So we'll keep that off the page. Underneath-it-All 20:57, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Here's the link to the article that confirms the Michael Jackson info. Madonna uses Michael Jackson sample, Fox news

Though it was from the "Triumph" album, not Victory, and written in '81, not '84...

This article is about the rumours before the album came out (Sunday, October 23, 2005). Someone reported "Sorry" would sound like "Can you feel it" and the newspapers published first that the Jacksons would sing background and later that there's a sample. Both is wrong. If there was a sample in "Sorry" it would be credited like the ABBA sample. That's it. --Red-Blue-White 05:47, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] official release date

warner bros belgium have announced that sorry will be released on monday 20th feburary in europe, it does not mention the australian and u.s release dates

i got this info from www.madonnalicious.com under the article "sorry release date" (from feburary 6th)

[edit] Single cover changed again

How many known single covers exist for "Sorry"? We cannot have it constantly changing in the template. However, if there are two major single cover releases for the song, I find it appropraite to place the standard one in the template. Solar Serenity 01:41, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Music vid.

I gave the info about the vid a bit of an update :) Is what I changed OK?

"The single's video was directed by Madonna's longtime choreographer, Jamie King. Many of the performers featured in Madonna's "Hung Up" video are in her "Sorry" one."

[edit] languages list

I've been adding the list of performed languages. It is just the ones I understood, I know it is incomplete, I cannot put the correct template, sorry. Thanks for helping :) --Sailko 07:39, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

On the language subject, the Hebrew is wrong. The word Sleecha means excuse me (like what you say when you want someones attention) not forgiveness. The word for forgiveness goes along the lines of "Mechilah". There is S'lach lanu which means forgive us... (Spanglish 20:56, 4 March 2006 (UTC))

Not a regular Wikipedia user, I don't have an ID or anything like that. "Sleecha" is listed as meaning 'Pardon, forgiveness' in the Oxford English-Hebrew, Hebrew-English Dictionary (Kernemann - Lonnie Kahn, 1995) - so it does mean forgiveness. As for "Mechilah", are you confused with 'Machal' (mem, het, lamed) - 'forgive, pardon' ? And if you want someone's attention wouldn't you be more likely to say "bevakashah" - you say sleecha if you are expecting forgivenes - its like saying sorry!

An example of sleecha in everyday usage would go along the lines of "Sleecha, At mevinah Engleet?"(Spanglish 00:15, 7 July 2006 (UTC))

The saying between Hindi and Hebrew is not even close to Polish Przepraszam. Actually it is said in Lithuanian Išeik prašau (Please leave). The pronunciation would be something like ish-eyck prah-show. Peace :) (KishKiai 16:43, 30 March 2006 (UTC))


No, it's said in Polish but she says "Prze-prasom". It written in the original text.

This all shows the sloppiness of Stuart Price as a producer and the album as a whole. Couldn't they have spent more than 25 seconds looking up translations? PatrickJ83 23:28, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I'm not so sure that they wanted Madonna to be singing "I am drunk"... —Eternal Equinox | talk 02:47, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

The equivalent of "Lo siento" in Portuguese is not "O sinto" (that would translate into something like "I feel it") but "Sinto muito", literally "I feel much" but meaning "I'm sorry". I'm that remark from the article. Not signed up yet, will do it soon. 89.155.56.45 15:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 4.3m?

Has 'Sorry' sold 4.3 million? We all know it was a big worldwide hit, but 4.3 is a lot, unless you include ringtones?

Without references, it's unknown. Velten 18:30, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
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