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Contents 1 SEGA Confirms PC version to be fake 2 Creation of an "abilities" heading 3 Confusions 4 Plothole 5 GAMEHEAD Confirms PC version Delayed

[edit] SEGA Confirms PC version to be fake

http://www.sonicstadium.org/sonicnews/262/ SEGA of Europe confirmed that there WILL NOT be any pc version of this game.

Maybe SEGA Will make a PC version later,Since Sonic Racers did have a PC version.--LavaBall 07:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The letter Sega sent may or may not be true; we can't know for sure. This information is original research and unverifiable, and should not be included in this article. –Prototime (talk • contribs) 17:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

So you're saying that a letter directly from SEGA might not be official? MindWraith 06:11, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm saying that, according to Wikipedia standards, a personal letter is original research, is not verifiable, and should not be referenced in an article. See WP:NOR and WP:Verifiability for the logic as to why. –Prototime (talk • contribs) 07:23, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

You know, if you really don't like that letter, you could contact Sega and try to make the information known in a public form. Just dismissing it entirely through a nuance of Wikipedia procedure when it's obviously a thorough debunking to a claim with shoddy evidence to begin with is disingenuous and ultimately harmful to Wikipedia's credibility; many fans are linking this article as "proof" and will soon discover it, and by extension Wikipedia, to be unreliable.Rolken 16:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

This is not a "nuance" of Wikipedia prodecure; verifiability is one of the pillars on which Wikipedia was founded and is the hallmark of an encylopedia. Whether or not I "like" the letter is not the issue; the issue is whether or not Wikipedia policy allows this letter to be referenced. To place this letter, which was posted on a forum, as a reference in this article is what is damaging to Wikipedia's credibility, not the other way around. There's a reason why these rules exist, and why they're applied on every other article in the encylopedia (or should be, if they're not). As editors, we are obliged to follow these rules and maintain the encylopedia's integrity with reliable resources; as such, that letter should not be referenced here. –Prototime (talk • contribs) 06:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not disputing that Wikipedia policy prohibits that particular letter from being cited. I am disputing that Wikipedia policy prohibits editors from taking that letter seriously and attempting to obtain the information therein in a form amenable to Wikipedia policy. And the positive evidence cited (a generic Amazon placeholder) isn't what I would call a reliable source either, but maybe policy differs on that. Rolken 08:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

The continual onslaught of misinformation has made us Wikipedian jaded. If you think our Amazon source is unreliable, I suggest you take that up with Amazon and not us. Inform them that you heard a rumor that a rumor was a rumor, and perhaps they will contact Sega themselves for confirmation. –Gunslinger47 23:36, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

There's still the problem of:

• http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sega-Sonic-The-Hedgehog-PC/dp/B000GM8ACM/
• http://www.gamestation.co.uk/product.asp?id=101117542966748
• http://www.discshop.fi/shop/ds_produkt.php?ref=&id=55753

Now, I can't understand Finnish, so I don't know what to make of the third link. However, the first link is from Amazon and the second is from Gamestation, a company owned and operated by Blockbuster. If the PC version is never to be released, then it was unceremoniously canceled. There is probably plenty of bad information out there in fan-world, but the existence of a once-upcoming PC port is what our sources indicate. –Gunslinger47 20:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Amazon UK just took down their listing for Sonic '06 PC. I'm removing all references from the article. –Gunslinger47 04:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creation of an "abilities" heading

I've noticed that the information on the gameplay of the three hedgehogs (Sonic, Silver and Shadow) goes to excessive length to describe their abilities. I don't have the game and therefore don't quite know how to do it, but it would be a good idea to create a heading quickly describing the abilities of the various characters, perhaps in a table to show which ones are shared and which differ from each character. What do you think? (211.30.189.31 07:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Confusions

What should be mentioned in this article, is that this game should not be confused with the Sega Genesis game of the same name. --PJ Pete

Such as in the second paragraph, for example? –Gunslinger47 02:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plothole

I think I noticed a plothole in the end.

• At the end when Elise felt a "familiar wind" and then it showed a FULL moon.
• Then I remebered that in Sonic Adventure 2 where Shadow first appeared, that the Ark blasted the moon showing a threat to the erath.
• But if Sega ignored then how did Shadow and Rouge appear?

Please reply about this --StrongCool 23:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Other side of the moon, or you could consider that it's a mistake. Hello2112 22:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about calling it a Plothole. But still it took out more than 25% of the moon.

I'm pretty sure that the side of the moon we see is always the same... but at any rate, despite the moon being partially destroyed in SA2, it's been shown as full more than once in other games before this one (notably Sonic Hereos and Shadow the Hedgehog), so it's hardly an issue unique to this game. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.142.130.59 (talk) 17:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] GAMEHEAD Confirms PC version Delayed

Sonic Next is delayed according to GAMEHEAD.com.au, and have received a new release date. According to a recent email received March 28, the game is still coming, albeit late on April 29. This is the email (and you can ask them too at the address shown by clicking the live help desk box in the upper right-hand corner):

“	Hi (name), All of the release dates listed on GAMEHEAD.com.au are confirmed dates for actual titles forwarded to us exclusively by the publisher. These dates can be subject to change at the publisher’s discretion; however they’re generally accurate to the minute as we update them constantly to reflect the publisher’s schedules. Kind regards, GAMEHEAD – Customer Service Team. Suite 603, Level 6 6 Help Street Chatswood, NSW 2067 Australia ABN: 26 106 596 703	„

In addition, no one has yet received a cancellation on their preorder for Sonic the Hedgehog (PC) on Amazon.co.uk. Before the game was removed from the site, it stated "limited availability", so it was probably removed due to preorder limits being filled on the game. –Sonichedgehog360 16:01, 28 March 2007

As of yet, only Australia is confirmed, so I put an Australia flagcon for the PC release on April 29, 2007. –Sonichedgehog360 16:12, 28 March 2007

“	Hi (name), Sonic Riders for PC is a port of the console title of the same name, while Sonic The Hedgehog on PC is the next-gen title currently under release on PS3 and Xbox360. The Sonic Mega Collection plus is also available on GAMEHEAD.com.au under the gamers choice label (we’ve all played way too much of this). Kind regards, GAMEHEAD – Customer Service Team. Suite 603, Level 6 6 Help Street Chatswood, NSW 2067 Australia ABN: 26 106 596 703	„

The game is thus confirmed only for Australia through THQ Publishing as this moment. Please do not remove the information previously added again or I will report you to Wikipedia admin. –Sonichedgehog360 17:06, 29 March 2007

It seems that cybersquatters have swiped SonicStadium's domain name, so I unfortunately wasn't be able to read what they said. Now, as for the issue on-hand: We can't use your emails as a reference, though if GameHead.com.au posts Sonic the Hedgehog for the PC as an upcoming game, then we'll have no problem referencing that.

I've searched over their site, however it seems that the game is not listed at the moment.[1] If you can find their entry or if it's posted at a later date, then feel free to reinsert your reverted contributions. For more information on this step, please read Wikipedia:Attribution. –Gunslinger47 02:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, there it is: http://gamehead.com.au/product.php?productid=92616&cat=&page=1 –Gunslinger47 02:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

More Australians agreeing:

• http://www.aussiegamer.com.au/catalog/sonic-hedgehog-p-17865.html
• http://www.gamesmarket.com.au/details.php?ProdID=508392
• http://www.gpstore.com.au/Games/1536664.html

–Gunslinger47 22:49, 31 March 2007 (UTC)