Talk:Sonar (Transformers)
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[edit] Onyx Primal Clone
Although the tech spec for Sonar states she is a clone, it never states is a clone of anyone specifically. Only Primal? Optimus Primal? Noctorro? Soundwave? All Beast Wars bats. Could even be someone we never heard of. Stating it as fact on the page is misleading, since it's not official, just fan speculation. If it's a theory, state it as such. user:mathewignash
- It could be looked at as either: Onyx Primal, the pre-Beast Wars bat version of Optimus Primal or both considering Onyx is sometimes also considered to be a clone of Optimus Primal. As the Hasbro bio says he's a clone that does make it fact. The other bats you mentioned also have other animal DNA (bull and alligator respectively) so we can safely remove them from the list. Second the Transmetal II line was filled with units from the first toyline (with some new ones too I grant you) Cybershark, Iguanus, Cheetor, Dinobot, Blackarachnia, Prowl, Spittor etc. Dinobot, Scarem, Sonar and Optimus Minor are all clones from toys in the first season line up. Does that help clear it up for you? --The Matrix Prime 17:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Prime Category
You are correct when you say that Sonar does not carry the title “Prime” in his name, user:mathewignash. But I didn’t create the category to list out just all the Primes. Its purpose was to list out any transformers with connections to the name Optimus Prime. That includes among others Hot Rod, Vector Prime, Nemesis Prime, Optimus Primal Onyx Primal, Optimus Minor and Sonar. Now I know you don’t like to think of Sonar as a clone but you have to agree that there is at least enough evidence to support putting him on that list at least as a probationary member. If you think the category’s purpose would be clearer, I have thought of changing its name to Primes/Primals. Opinion?
