Talk:Somers Town, London
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Removed unsupported comment claiming that newer Muslim communities have refused to integrate due to local government funding, blah, blah. Removed irrelevant link to David Davis' criticism of Muslim leaders. Centrepull 11:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah and good on you!!Luckyles 20:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Luckyles 18:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)==Clean up== Needs a general tidy up, better language, some specifics need looking at. Badgerpatrol 04:06, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
You can say that again - however, an attempt to do so was immediately vandalised
Take2. Made a few corrections of fact plus small number of links
Take3 : editing somebody else's stuff is TOO laborious , but made a couple of small contributions
Take4 : put in some more time tidying up , correcting fact and diluting one or two unsupported povs
Whoever has "improved " this page patently does not live in Somers Town. Your assertions that we all live separately according to our ethnic and cultural background is totally wrong. Visit our " sectarian/culturally segregated " schools for a real picture before pronouncing on the area! "Political power base dilution"- translate please?? Luckyles 17:09, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Anyway, that particular edit seems to have gone?
I have tried to edit this item as sensitively as possible, but my reward is vandalism of the contribution and verbal abuse. "Political power base dilution" means what it says in simple English - Somers Town is a ghetto, cultivated as a ghetto as a political power base - and I, apparently unlike you, have children in the disgracefully sectarian schools system. What do you know of the discouragement of English language development, especially among girls, at the state primary sink, because one religious faction (wielding a block vote) thinks it unnecessary, or the bogus religious entrance critera of the two openly sectarian pseudo-religious schools (including the one owned/operated by the religious faction a prominent member of which openly disclosed to me "we got together to stop people getting off boats from filling up our [pseudo-religious] schools")? Answer = either nothing, or you have a political motive for misrepresenting reality. What experience do you have of your children being rejected because non Caucasian - or non muslim, or non catholic, or non this or non that, etcetera, etcetera? When was the last time you looked into a bogus religious school's playground and compared its population with the population in the church the following Sunday? What is the mysterious influence that segregates children culturally and racially, in and out of school? - I see my own children unable to socialise with caucasians in nearby schools and even with their close friends at the same primary school because culturally/racially segregated outside of the school perimeter. The answer is the evil influence of the sociopaths who controlled and populated the town hall for decades. What of the non full-time sector? I have personally heard the manager of 'Hopscotch', at a meeting on the premises of the sink secondary school, defending the openly racist characteristic of the pre-school/out-of-school resource on the ground that "it a condition attached to town hall money" - and heard the manager of "plot-ten" reject children because "we cater for working mothers" (code for a different, more furtive, strain of racist/cultural exclusion). A deputy Director of the LEA has communicated to me "discrimination isn't illegal when it cannot be proven to be intentional" and another LEA officer has referred to and openly admitted awareness of the concentrating in a primary and secondary 'sink' of "non achievers". What is the mysterious influence that is powerful enough to achieves this without legal challenge? If such people operated in the back street second-hand car industry they could be criminalised, but because they inhabit children's services they can't. Tax-financed "showcasing" as you put it of a lame officially promoted street festival is a sick joke that is an insult to vigorous cultures like the one behind the Notting Hill event - if you think I'm overcritical you should hear the scathing comments of local children and visitors - and it wouldn't do you any harm to listen to Trevor Phillips either, on the topic of multicultural society as both an oxymoron and when officially promoted at taxpayers' expense, a pernicious because anticommunitarian misuse of public money. A high profile, less secretive, but nevertheless telling characteristic of the cultivated ghetto, in which children are legally abused political fodder to adult's prejudices, is the building of two monstrosities owned by and within the anti-social shadow cast by, a visa university, on two of the Somers Town school playgrounds.
Oh Dear. And this article is now neutral is it? I?m giving up.
Comment : it is *factual* and I see you have removed the *fact* that what was St Marys primary school playground is now a profitable towering block owned by UCL, that completely overshadows the school
comment> I think you have overlooked the fact that the school is newly built and that the playground is going to be bigger than before. The Victorian building is coming down.
Perhaps I wont give up.
Comment : No dearie, don't. Instead and in place of your characteristic unsupported town hall propaganda, publish some pics taken from the school of the profitable students' accomodation block, owned by a visa 'university' that has cast an anti-social shadow over the children of Somers Town for decades. An accomodation block, completely overshadowing the school, that used to be the school playground. Readers will then be able to see the unscrupulous abuse of ghetto power for themselves.
comment Why do you insist on remaining anonymous.....dearie? I speak as a mother of a child whose best friend happens to be Bengali.I am friends with her mother, and with quite a few people who are not of my ethnic persuasion. It doesn't matter. I am not segregated and neither are they. My daughter goes to a (let me get this right) bogus religious school (Father Paul is going to have a laugh about this).You seem to be fixated with the Town Hall. Poor old Plot Ten have fallen victim to your wrath as well! I edited this article once in good faith. I did not, as you imply, vandalise it. But that's it. Finish. I feel so sorry for someone like you who has such embittered views of the area.
Comment: In other words you reject the invitation to let readers judge for themselves, prefering to resort again to unsupported POV and personal abuse of an editor. As for your "Father Paul" and his laughter (about which response I agree - when in a different environment the reaction would be shame - but he's not unigue, the Bishop of Edmonton also refused to intervene to diminish the levels and forms of sectarian discrimination and closet racism that characterise 'education' in Somers Town too, until faced with explaining his conduct to a judge). Another *fact* : my children were rejected by both holy hypocrite schools, as non Caucasians because as the speaker excusing one exclusion (the other lot contemptuously offered nil excuse - that was in the days when they thought they were above the law and the population of pink children wasn't hurriedly diluted by some token non pinks - I remember the first hurriedly acquired tokens were a Nigerian family) said "we don't have enough space for our own children". "Our own children" - as in the case of the equally selective Bishop of Edmonton led fraction of closet racists (the other one where "we got together to stop people getting off boats from filling up our schools" according to one of your 'christian' stalwarts), also run by holy hypocrites, are characterised by criteria other than whether or not they appear in either of the churches on Sundays. Readers can easily - against a background that includes well known widespread pernicious bogus 'religious' schools selection phenomena, of which most well-informed citizens are well aware as a charactersitic of a Britain led by another holy hypocrite, who personally exploited it for his own children after turning his back on struggling Islington sinks overflowing with rejected ("non achievers", I quote the then LEA of LB Camden) from Camden - guess what those criteria are and what are the motives behind them. The fact that the level of discrimination is gradually decreasing is wholly attributable to it being unsafe to be as blatant about it as the pepertators used to be, because of the real risk of having to explain to a judge in public court thanks to a tiny handful of (incomer) residents who believe that children's right to develope fully, free from the prejudices of underdeveloped adults, is enforcable in law. The fact that the level of violence associated with the notorious local sink secondary is diminishing, is also attributable to the same influence and to the factor that children aren't fools - they can spot anti-social hypocrites quicker than you can type a word of unsupported personal POV and they react to laboriously achieved (by threat of legal actions) diminishment (but far from elimination) of the prevailing levels of hypocrisy and closet racism. I note your resort to brandishing the totem of "a Bengali friend". Readers will draw their own conclusions. It has nil bearing on whether or not children (as distinct from adults who are 90% lost causes) are deliberately segregated. Does the "Bengali" child you refer to visit your home, or your child visit the "Bengali" home? Do thechildren share the same out-of-school facilities? Do they share the same publicly financed children's outings/events/premises? I think not, unless it is by uncommon private arrangement typical of some small breakthroughs achieved in spite of pernicious intentionally segregation/apartheid creating/promoting/reinforcing/maintaining public spending by sociopaths. What to you is a "Bengali" problem, is a broader product of cultivated sectarianism and closet racism. For decades, public spending has aggravated 'christian' discrimination by adding additional layers of "Bengali" (as you call it) discrimination as freely disclosed by the manager of "Hopscotch" and others. "Hopscotch" is an excellent example, it was created and is still publicly financed (although "Save The Children" withdrew holding its nose) to aggravate and reinforce the pernicious segregating consequences of the "only working mothers" (in an area in which the one constant characteristic of the "mothers" of children targeted for exclusion, is that they are all full-time parents) mislabeled closet 'christian' discrimination of "Plot 10" et al. In a society not influenced by a policy of ghetto cultivation as a power base, they would all be abolished (as the only effective remedy of cultivated and now deeply embedded discrimination/segregation) and replaced by a non discriminatory melting pot high quality (because most cost effective in terms of societal need for fully developed non alienated people) group socialisation environment available to all children of every colour or creed, able-bodied and disabled, 'achievers' and "non-achievers" (I quote LB Camden)- including non sectarianised children, excluded by the likes of both "Plot 10" *and* "Hopscotch", in order to protect children and society from the evil influence of underdeveloped adults intent on perpetuating spirals of human underdevelopemnt. When there is publicly financed/aided/abetted discrimination in the field of child development, not in a benign/equitable form based on quantified achievement against a background of equality of opportunity, then both sets of children/future_citizens, those discriminated against and those who are the 'beneficiaries', are abused and developmentally mutilated - and society is denied the benefit of a generation of fully developed people.
This is a disgraceful way to respond on a discussion page. IP 82.35.32.190 seems intent on intimidating contributors on this discussion page. Is this behaviour what new and potential contributors to Wikipedia can expect?
[edit] Grid reference
I'm not really sure how these grid references work but it currently points to a location in Bloomsbury - can this be fixed? Lfh 17:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
