Talk:Soma Cruz

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I have not played Dawn of Sorrows, so I avoided the final sections of the page, which seem to be the contentious parts anyways. bkerr 04:09, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] White? Ritual drink?

"Soma" is 蒼真.

Look that up in any Japanese dictionary.

蒼い: Blue.

真: True, real.

His surname was originally "Kurusu" (来須), which is also Japanese, which was changed to "Cruz" in an attempt to make the first game more accessible to non-Japanese.

This is true. "'Soma Cruz' means 'cross of a ritual drink of importance among the early Indo-Iranians, and the later Vedic and Iranian cultures, and specifically in Hindu mythology!' isn't.

[edit] Also...

"...and depending on the player's actions you enter a mirror into the chaotic realm (the normal ending of the game can be attained here if the player doesn't fulfill certain requirments to enter the mirror). In here, Soma comes across Celia finally, who tells Soma to meet her in another area."

There is no "chaotic realm". Soma encounters Celia in the throne room after exiting the mirror world where he fights Dario's inner demon, Agni.

"Julius, Arikado, and Yoko fight through all of the normal games area's but with new bosses, essentially being a totally different game in itself."

There is only one new boss- Souma himself. There is also no dialogue at all, except for when you encounter Yoko and Alucard, and before the final battle.

"While this is a very dark ending and followup storyline, it is considered the favorite ending by far due to its unusually tragic atmosphere and how eerilly well it wraps up the Soma Cruz storyline."

Julius mode has no ending. Upon defeating Souma's second form, you see the castle collapse, and then the credits roll.

"Demitri absorbs a great deal of Dracula's power for himself and enters the Chaotic realm once more, killing Celia in the process."

There is no "chaotic realm" in the game, and Celia dies later in the abyss as a sacrifice to the Menace.

"As the game has been recently released, it is unknown which ending will eventually be the Canon ending. Some argue that the fact Julius Mode, a whole new game in itself is unlocked by the Bad Ending show this as proof that Igarashi intends to have the tragic ending be canon, although it is impossible to say at this point"

As I've said before, Julius mode has no ending, no new bosses aside from Souma, and almost no dialogue at all.

Unless all of this blatant misinformation is removed, I should think that the article is better off without the whole Dawn of Sorrow plot section.

I have personally played the game myself, and while many of the small details were wrong the general flow of what was said was generally correct. I'll leave it as is for now as it was pretty messy to begin with, and maybe I'll make a new entry for his Dawn of Sorrow role if someone else doesn't eventually.
I have to say though sir, the way you handled this was rather destructive, unconstructive and offensive. There's no need to resort to cursing and personal insults. Also, while the thing did need cleaning up I don't think it was necessary to delete the whole thing. If you know so much more information than you should add some in yourself. I have to say this almost borderlines on wiki vandalism but its not that big of a deal in the end. Just please keep in mind that you are free to change whatever you want as long as its within reason, so really there's no need to get all huffy and offensive to other posters. That just doesn't lead to anything but pointless bickering. --Kiyosuki 08:12, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I've removed the entire Allusions to Dracula section as it's all OR. Jtrainor 19:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)