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[edit] Mental Toughness?

Mental Toughness- Softball is different from other sports in that it requires great levels of mental toughness. There is added pressure when one is at bat and while on the field, so a player that is capable to deal with these extra pressures will be successful.

As compared to baseball? Football? Seems POV to suggest that softball requires mental toughness at competitive levels while other sports do not. Jpers36 19:50, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] slowpitch vs fastpitch

Might it be worth splitting slowpitch and fastpitch softball into separate articles? "Rover/shortfielder" would then be merged into the slowpitch article. --MarkGallagher 06:19, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Images

There seems to be trouble finding non-copyrighted images for this article. If anyone can find any non-copyrighted action shots, that would be great. --D-Day 23:23, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

I hope to be able to take some photos in a couple of weeks. If so, they'll be either men's A-grade (night games) or J. Random Women's Games (daytime). D'yer reckon you could hang on 'til then? --fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 23:05, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Sounds good. --D-Day 22:28, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] rvts to modifcation of rules

I removed the addition of mercy rules and tiebreakers from the "modification" section, because they're not actually modifications: they're part of the real, life, honest-to-goodness rules of the game. True story. We've already got a section on the mercy rule; I guess tiebreakers (or at least the reason for them) are important, too. I'll try to add something in there (along with other general changes) soon. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 07:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Someone who knows the rules please help

On the "Special Circumstances" section, there was a bit of text which used to read:

In fast pitch, if the catcher drops strike three (a passed ball), the batter attempts to run to first base.

Now it reads:

In fast pitch, if the catcher drops strike three (a passed ball), the batter cannot attempt to run to first base and is still called out.

Which one is correct? If it's not the current one, please replace that paragraph with the old one (just remove the '' tags I've inserted on this talk page). Rbarreira 23:25, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

The first one is definitely correct. There are occasions when the batter is out whether the catcher catches the third strike or not (if they are hit in the strike zone, if there is a runner on first with less than two outs), but a) this is relatively rare, and b) this is far too detailed for an encyclopaedia article. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 12:54, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Also it isnt always a passed ball. It could be when there is a strike and the catcher just drops it from her glove

it should actually read more like this In Fastpitch, if the catcher drops strike three, the batter may attmept to run to first base, however if there was a runner on first base at the time of the pitch the batter is automaticaly out(unless there is 2 outs). In the event of a drop third strike, the first baseman can elect to take either the white or safety base to attempt the out, if they elect the safety base the runner must then run through the white base. --Dan027 07:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Failed GA

Has come a long way but the references are still inadequate to me. savidan(talk) (e@) 04:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] International tie breaker error

In the section mentioning the International tie breaker (Ending the Game), it mentions that the person who goes to second base at the start of the next inning is the person who made the 3rd out. Now I'm not a connoisseur of this rule, but I think it is worded wrong. I believe that it is really the last person with a complete at bat who goes to second; this could be because a person not batting could be the 3rd out on the field, or the batter up at bat did not finish because a 3rd out was made. Could someone confirm this so it can be reworded? Thanks! → JARED (t)  00:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The runner to start on second base would be the 9th batter in that innings. --Dan027 07:28, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible errors

I have been playing softball for almost 15years now, reading over this article i have found one or two things i dont personaly agree with, these are:

  • not all softball diamonds have these safety bases and they are much more common in women's softball than in men's, i have never seen a softball game without the safety base.
  • Batting helmets must have two ear flaps, one on each side, and a protective cage. Cages are not required at youth levels but are mandatory at higher levels., i agree with the ear flaps, however have never once seen a helmet with a "cage" at any level of representative softball.
  • Also the official mercy rules were also changed recently, aswell as the DP rule.
  • and once or twice i noticed players being refured to as "she", the sport is played by both male and females the article should reflect this abit more.--Dan027 08:21, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Some international games (mens) have the safety base removed, depending on what country is hosting the tournament and their rules in regards to the safety base. Helmets (all ages and competitions) must have two ear flaps however I have never seen a helmet with a cage either and doubt you could even find one....-TDC13

[edit] Popularity

The section states that in most US cities adult teams are organized by pubs. I went ahead and changed "most" to "many" since there was no citation. It has also been my experience that it is very common to see adult softball organized by churches throughout the South, often called church league ball. Has anyone else noticed this and do you think it worth a mention along with the beer leagues. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.252.137.19 (talk • contribs).

Despite a few disputes other talkers have pointed out I must say this is one of the better articles I've read. It takes softball to depths I never thought of. So sue me for wanting to say good fucking job. Jaylectricity 18:43, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

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