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[edit] St. Michael's College

Thank you for your extensive work on St. Michael's College (Enniskillen). As St Michael's College was an exact duplicate, and as St. Michael's College was a disambiguation page, I took the liberty of redirecting the former to the latter. St. Michael's College (Enniskillen) is now linked from the disambiguation page at St. Michael's College along with other schools of the same name. Anyway, thanks again for your contributions, and happy editing! Pan Dan 02:01, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tomás Cardinal Ó Fiaich

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[edit] Tomás Cardinal Ó Fiaich

I read through the welcome page before doing anything. The article on Cardinal Ó Fiaich was almost exclusively a piece of personal opinion. Almost no effort was made to support the claims made with any citation. I plan to do a major upgrade to this article, making it a more accurate biography of the man's life, with statements supported by credible, independent sources. Socal90046 05:22, 25 December 2006 (UTC)SoCal90046

[edit] Diocese of Down and Connor (Roman Catholic)

Please use the move function, instead of copy-and-paste, when renaming a page. This avoids splitting the page history in several places. -- ReyBrujo 04:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Roman Catholic dioceses

Socal - can you add "Ireland" to the names of the dioceses when you update the wikilinks, please? I've been contemplating reorganizing this list by country, but first it needs country names after all the diocese names, as well as about 3000 more dioceses. Argyriou (talk) 07:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kells-Mellifont

Hi. I notice you have linked some of the dioceses to articles on the Roman Catholic sees. Not sure if this is appropriate, as the Church of Ireland dioceses also descend from those established at the Synod. We probably need an article on each diocese before the split (like Diocese of Ardagh, although it needs considerable rewriting). What do you think? Lozleader 10:30, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

You raise a good point. Ideally, an article on each diocese from its foundation would work best. I have been gathering materials on the subject and will write up some articles. So, to use Connor as an example. There would be an article on the Diocese of Connor, then a link to the Church of Ireland Diocese of Connor and one to the Roman Catholic Diocese of Down and Connor. This effort could be replicated for other diocese. My only concern is moving material that others have written; the whole thing sounds like a project, but I think it needs to be done. For example, when I was looking at the diocese of Clogher a few days ago, I found articles that linked the Catholic diocese to Church of Ireland personalities and vice versa. I guess that's what's called "ambiguity" on Wikipedia and therefore needs to be cleared up. Do you think a formal project on the topic makes sense? Socal90046 19:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know about a formal project. It would be a good idea to get one or two dioceses up to a good standard, with I suppose 2 or 3 articles (or more!) depending on their history (Pre reformation/RC/CoI). When that's done, it should be possible to use them as a template. Some of the dioceses don't need the denomination added. For instance the Diocese of Kerry is only a Catholic entity: the old dioceses and the CoI is Ardfert and Aghadoe. There probably needs to a judicial use of dablinks at the top of some pages, too, where they share a name. As far as moving other people's work around, that is all in the nature of Wikipedia (see WP:BOLD) Lozleader 20:01, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clonfert

Regarding your recent move of List of Bishops of Clonfert to List of Bishops of Clonfert (Church of Ireland). Had you read the list you would have noticed that the page lists all people styled as bishops of Clonfert, regardless of whether they were pre-Reformation, Catholic or Church of Ireland.

In addition, I don't think it's valid to simply cut material from one article Diocese of Clonfert (which I contributed mostly), and to paste it into a new article Diocese of Clonfert (Roman Catholic). For one thing, the history of the pre-Reformation diocese should remain at Diocese of Clonfert, with the post-Reformation histories going to there seperate articles. The pages are now a mess (there is plenty of CoI information in the new article you hastily created).--Damac 11:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the note. I was actually trying to bring some order to the process so I apologize for any disorder that I created. When I was reading articles and following links, I found links that made no sense. I do think it makes sense to have, say, three separate articles. Since the Reformation was a significant event, one could deal on the pre-reformation diocese; others could deal on the diocese after the Reformation.

I have re-read the listing of Bishops of Clonfert; it is a really useful article. That format is useful for all diocese. Socal90046 19:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Diocese of Clogher (Roman Catholic)

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[edit] Diocese of Derry (Roman Catholic)

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[edit] Diocese of Dromore (Roman Catholic)

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[edit] Diocese of Kilmore (Roman Catholic)

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[edit] Diocese of Kerry (Roman Catholic)

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[edit] Diocese of Killaloe (Roman Catholic)

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[edit] Disambiguating links

You have twice now attempted to disambiguate the "red links" on the Roman Catholic Diocese of El Paso article. While this is normally a good thing, the pages to which you point the links do not exist either, and, in this case, links like Anthony Joseph Schuler are preferable to ones like Anthony Joseph Schuler (Roman Catholic Bishop). The qualification in () is only necessary if an article about a different Anthony Joseph Schuler already exists. Thank you. Salmar 15:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Empty establishments categories

Greetings. I've noticed that you've been creating a number of empty categories in the Category:Establishments by year category structure. Empty categories are not a good thing as they suggest to readers who see links to the categories that there will be information there (eg on the 1309 page). If the category is empty it is better left as a red link as this lets the reader know that there is nothing to see. If you want to carry on working with the establishments categories then please don't let me put you off. If you want to create a currently non-existant establishments category then just find an article to put in that category first. Thanks. Greenshed 21:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Diocesan College (Definition)

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