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The American rock band Built To Spill has released a cover of the Snoopy theme song "Linus and Lucy" on the Monitor This compilation.
This should be in the article on "Peanuts" or perhaps Lucy van Pelt or Linus van Pelt. Snoopy is not "Peanuts", he is not even the most important character—that would be Charlie Brown.
- Good point. I've removed it. Probably should add it to the Peanuts page or something. -R. fiend 02:12, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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- Thanks! I realise now that I forgot to identify myself earlier! Rockhopper10r 07:47, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] World War 2?!
"His arch-enemy (other than the Red Baron) is the cat next door named 'World War II' (and cats in general)." Can anyone verify this for me? I'm familiar with most of the stuff in here, and the cat, but I never heard it called "World War II". Is this just me? Thanx 68.39.174.150 23:28, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- There was a sequence circa 1977-78 where Peppermint Patty is angry with Snoopy for enrolling her in the "Ace Obedience School" (she thought it was a private school). She sees the cat next door and says to Charlie Brown "That looks like a dog in a cat suit". CB warns her that that is "World War II, the cat who lives next door...He's mean!" In her anger, PP insists that it is Snoopy and she attacks him (off panel, of course). AFAIK, this is the only time the cat is referred to by his name.
Rockhopper10r 04:29, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I've posted this elsewhere, but this link shows the Cat Next Door's name.Rockhopper10r 17:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Keep Tech Control
The reference to “tech control” should not be removed. If anything, there should be a reference to Schulz’s gift of that particular picture. I can’t find a copy of the pic anywhere on the internet either, but know plenty of Air Force personnel who whore the shirt and should have got one myself when I went through Tech School at the (currently flooded & closed) 332 training Sq. at Keesler AFB. Specifically, the AF career fields got recoded @ 15 yrs ago, and the story goes that Schulz was involved somehow in the old 492x1 field, called “Telecommunication Systems Management …” the x and “…” stand for the appropriate career level ie, apprentice, etc. I entered in 93’ with a 492 reserved slot and got the new 3C2x1 code, now called “Telecommunications Systems Control…” or simply Systems Control. Since Schulz officially “gave” this picture to the AF, it is one of the officially sanctioned “uniform” pictures approved to go with unit emblems. Not on formal uniforms per se, but when BDU tops are removed for “work” approved color T-shirts might have the Squadron’s official emblem on the front, and members of Tech/Systems Control are allowed to have the Snoopy Water Walker on the back. I’ve looked all over the internet and would love a copy of it. If I ever get one I’ll clean this up and add the post to Snoopy’s wiki page Deusbeatus 16:48, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Water Walkers
Thanks for not removing that entry of Snoopy being the mascot for Tech controllers. I am a relatively new Tech Controller and I think that is a very interesting bit of history. I will try to find a picture of the insignia and post it here. 66.98.131.102 01:26, 23 November 2005 (UTC)Stefan
This should shed some light on everything and here is the web site
that I retrieved the information and picture from. http://3c2.us/node/78
--Stefanmeyers 02:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
There is actually an unofficial website for USAF Tech Controllers at http://www.3c2.us and the topic of how snoopy became the mascot is explained in detail within their forums here [1] and here [2]. A link to the image above and the original tech control snoopy is here [3]
[edit] NASA "Silver Snoopy" award
Take a look at http://www.hq.nasa.gov/osf/sfa/snoopy.html if you are interested in the NASA Space Flight Awareness Silver Snoopy Award.
[edit] Snoopy's breed
Who else thinks Snoopy looks more like a Jack Russell terrier than a beagle? Has anyone else ever thought of this?
- Determining Snoopy's breed by his appearance would be difficult. He does not look much like a beagle (I have a beagle. He's cute, but he doesn't look like Snoopy). Originally, Snoopy's breed was uncertain. At one point Charlie Brown even says he doesn't know Snoopy's breed (Lucy suggests "Miscellaneous"). Eventually, Snoopy began to be referred to as a beagle, which was consitent throughout the rest of the run of "Peanuts".Rockhopper10r 17:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] On Snoopy's history
Rockhopper10r is right, and there are several contradicting points in Snoopy's curriculum (quite naturally: it's difficult to keep consistent in details over the decades). For many early years of the strip, Snoopy even wasn't Charlie Brown's dog: he was fed, walked, washed and commanded by several characters, and it was unclear whether he actually belonged to any of them. He was not a stray dog, since from very early on, he was provided for a doghouse; rather he seemed to be a nice neighbourhood dog with which the children liked to play, and he with them. It has become a cliché that "in 1958, Snoopy rose to his hind legs". In fact, for about a decade after that, he walked alternately on four or two legs - on two mostly when he had something to do with his forelegs: hitting with a bat, carrying something or playing a trumpet. Not before the late 60s or early 70s did he begin to walk exclusively on his hindlegs. - Voice from Finland, 18 May 2006
[edit] Snoopy's dislike of coconut and cookies
I don't know about Snoopy's dislike of coconut but I am 100% certain that chocolate-chip cookies are his favorite. Change?
[edit] arguably the most recognizable comic character in the world
Shouldn't this be "one of the most recognizable"? Is he (worldwide!) more recognizable than Tintin, a Smurf, Popeye, ...? Fram 15:14, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] the Red Baron (who appeared vicariously through the bulletholes he left riddled in the doghouse).
Vicariously? I know what it means, but it seems strange in this sentence... confusion with victorious? Fram 15:14, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe "indirectly" would be a better word. The Red Baron (who "appeared" indirectly through the bulletholes he left riddled in the doghouse). I'm not even so sure "appeared" should be there. Maybe it should be, The Red Baron (whose presence was made known by the bulletholes he left riddled in the doghouse)? --Birdhombre 15:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Snoopy in popular culture
Like many "popular culture" sections of articles, this was quickly getting out of hand. Snoopy has been one of the most recognized and most licensed characters ever. If we're listing every single time he's appeared anywhere, this article will be nothing but a giant laundry list. I've taken all but (IMO) the most important entries. I think we should say something about the space capsule named after him; the fact that there's a Snoopy theme park somewhere in Hong Kong or once Garfield made a joke about him is really not that noteworthy. —Chowbok 17:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Brown Snoopy?
I took this out (twice):
The original Snoopy books although printed in black and white fetaured colour front covers and show Snoopy as a brown beagle. After the comics went into colour, Snoopy was left Black and White - an oddity as these are not colours that Beagles come in.
I don't believe this is true. See the first three Peanuts books here. The first one's cover was black and white, the second one was color but did not feature Snoopy, and the third one was color and showed Snoopy as white. Please do not re-add this without supporting evidence. —Chowbok 00:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- See also this painting Schulz made in 1951. The strip was only a few months old, and Snoopy is white with a black spot.—Chowbok 00:38, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Also, Snoopy was based on Schulz's dog Spike, who was mostly white with a few black spots, so it would make sense if Snoopy were colored white right from the start. See this image. --Birdhombre 14:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed addition to Snoopy and aviation
I was about to add a blurb about the Silver Snoopy, the Space Flight Awareness award presented solely by (NASA) astronauts, when I saw the note to discuss any additions to that section here first. See above where someone left a URL about the Silver Snoopy. The award is generally regarded in the American spaceflight community as the highest honor available. Following is the text that I was about to add...
- The Silver Snoopy is the award presented by NASA astronauts to members of the space flight community for contributions to flight safety and mission success or outstanding performance. The sterling silver pin is a likeness of Snoopy in a stylized spacesuit.
-- Pawl 20:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I didn't leave the note, but I am guessing it's due to such things now located at Peanuts in popular culture.
Feel free to add the information. Any references would obviously be great too : )
I think that that whole section could use some cleanup and organisation. So any help would be appreciated : ) - jc37 20:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- Someone did add the Silver Snoopy info, and I added a cite for it (and a refs section to display it). Might it be worth importing the image of it, as seen on this page?[4] Since it's on a gov web site, there should be no copyvio or fair use issue for it.Karen | Talk | contribs 21:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Snoopy was the name of the modified Lockheed Hercules used by the Met Office for its research flights. I propose this be added. The aeroplane can be seen here. Hammersfan 01/03/07, 11.55 GMT
[edit] Second image
The second image (the strip introducing Snoopy), when placed on the left, obscures some text. When put on the left, it doesn't. I'm running Firefox 1.5.0.9 on Windows XP with a widescreen. Before we continue shuffling the image about, can some other people please try the current and previous versions on their machine(s) and comment on the results? Thanks! Fram 13:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- The strip should be placed at the right, per style guidelines, I believe? However, if you're having technical issues, we should try to resolve those. What text is being obscured, and why is only this image doing so? - jc37 13:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
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- The WP:MOS only indicates putting the first image to the right, and does indicatethat other images may be either left or right (and suggests alternating). You can of course discuss if the infobox is an image or not, making the Snoopy strip the first or second one. As for what text is obscured, it is the line starting "He would also pretend to be various other animals, including a snake,", where the rest of the line is hidden behind the image (the hidden text being ", rhinoceros, and vulture. But his eccentricities did not stop there. "). Bizarrely, in the second version, the obscured text only started after ", rhinoceros, and vult"... The reason is probably that the infobox spans different sections, which has caused me similar problems in the past on other articles. These were then solved by either putting the image lower, or placing it on the left. I welcome any other solution (except abandoning either XP or Firefox, which is not a user-friendly solution of course), the image doesn't have to be at the left side at all, but I think it is an acceptable compromise for the time being unless someone else has problems by the new position (if it now obscures text on InternetExplorer browsers, pleae do put it back to the right!).
- I have now saved an alternative position of the images, all to the rigth, but a bit lower. This gives no problems on my side. It looks to me as if it is caused by an image on the right which position on-screen is already taken by the infobox, forcing it to be positioned above some other text somehow. The new position is on my browser below the ionfobox and thus gives no problems. Fram 14:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- I shrunk the size of the infobox image, so maybe that will prevent the issue. - jc37 16:48, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Snoopy as a writer (the 'Character' Chapter)
In the end of the 'Character' Chapter, reference is made to Snoopy as a writer and it is also mentionned that many of the most memorable moments of the strip involve Snoopy and his typewriter. It came to my mind, that the last Peanuts strip published in newspapers worldwide just days after the death of Schulz was a single frame with Snoopy typing Schulz's farewell message to the readers of Peanuts, as Schulz had already decided to stop drawing the strip. I do not have this particular strip and I don't remember his message, but if someone found it, it would be a good addition to this part of the article. Crockett616 11:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC) Crockett616
