Talk:Smoked meat

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Contents 1 vs corned beef 2 Who's deciding what is supposed to be in that article? 3 New York pastrami 4 "Political smoked meat" ?

[edit] vs corned beef

Anyone have any specfics as to how this is so very different from corned beef? They are both brined and smoked beef brisket, the most different they can possibly be is slightly different spicing. There seems to be just as much difference in flavour between any two places smoked meats and their smoked meat vs corned beef. Generic Player 07:14, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• I removed the references to smoked meat "now" being available outside Montreal and it "starting to appear" in restaurants outside Quebec. We've been eating smoked meat in Ontario for decades. I've seen it on menus for years, even with references to it being "Montreal style" or being "Montreal smoked meat". Maybe there are places out west where they haven't heard of it, but I think it's a real stretch to describe smoked meat as some new culinary sensation from Montreal. That's like saying hamburgers are "starting to appear" in restaurants outside the U.S. Skeezix1000 22:46, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Who's deciding what is supposed to be in that article?

Can you please tell me why you removed the reference to the place in Berlin? I find it remarkable that a Canadian (Tim Coughlin) is bringing this dish to Germany, where it was totally unknown before. If the article really only wants to discuss the origin of this dish, it should not read like an ad for Schwartz's Delicatessen. Don't you think? My edit was far from being Vandalism. Groovebuster 13:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I reverted the reference to Berlin based on several things. The sentence structure appeared unclear. Combined with the fact that you were editing from an IP, made multiple edits, and there was no edit summary made it look like vandalism. Each alone might not have caught my attention, but together, they did. There are blatant vandals who blank entire sections or replace words with vulgarity. There are also sneaky ones that slide things in hoping to be overlooked. I apologize for editing you out. Feel free to re-add it. Could I make the following suggestion – not knowing anything about Montreal?

Smoked meat can be found across Canada and have recently opened a franchise in Berlin, the capital city of Germany. Some would dispute whether it is truly possible to obtain true smoked meat outside of Montreal.

I also have to agree with the bulleted comment above. I think you need to establish what seperates this from any other deli. Espesially with Germany. My ancestry is German and the Germans know smoked meat. --Geneb1955^Talk/_CVU 13:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Germans indeed know smoked meat in general (I am from Germany myself), but not the kind that is coming from Montreal, which the article is about. And it actually is no franchise, the Deli in Berlin is doing the Montreal Smoked Meat all by istelf. Montreal Smoked Meat is no trademark, it is just a recipe. The difference to other Delis in Germany is that it is the only one in Germany selling Montreal Smoked Meat. I still find it remarkable that after 70 years (we all know what happened back then) this jewish dish was brought back to Germany by a Canadian running a Deli where mainly canadian dishes are served. Since the article is also about the history of the dish, it is worth to be mentioned. But I do agree that this fact should be presented more detailed in order to prevent the reader from misunderstandings. I will think about it and re-edit when I find the time. Groovebuster 14:36, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New York pastrami

This article could do with a complementary article on New York-style pastrami...

[edit] "Political smoked meat" ?

Encyclopedic content must be verifiable!

"has fled Montreal, due to Quebec's language laws, to Toronto"

This assertion do not correspond to the facts... There is no such things. Show me some references for this...

Is it possible for the unilingual Ontarians to sometimes shows a minimum of intellectual honnesty?

Bye

Please sign your entries. I fixed the wording. No more cause is given (for there are many, and not everyone that emigrated did so between, say 1976 and 1981).--Boffob 17:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)