Talk:Smile
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[edit] Shes Hot
Stop removing the third picture, it's an excellent example of a smile..and she's also hot! It's also public domain, she owns the picture!
There is no point, its repetition, and why does it say "angelic"?
She's not my g/f, LOL! Let's remove the 2nd picture and replace it with hers, then. It's an online encyclopedia. Since when were encyclopedias limited to only X amount of pictures?
[edit] Exposure of teeth
The article talks about the human smile, and then talks about animals baring their teeth.
However, in humans, does one necessarily have to bare their teeth to necessitate a smile? The article makes this a little unclear. There are people who can smile but can't (at least naturally) bare their teeth, but I think smiling just has to do with the curvature of the lips, regardless of teeth. --Rc251 09:35, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, smiling can be done with or without baring teeth. However, I think the article mentions to inform that when animals do that, it may look like a smile, but isn't, at least not in the normal meaning of the word (to show pleasure, happiness, etc). -- Jugalator 20:58, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Pictures of smiles
The blonde girl's smile doesn't seem like a very good example of the classic Duchenne smile to me, as the area around her eyes is not very involved in her overall expression. I actually prefered the picture of the guy on the beach which isn't there any more to this picture, as the upper half of his face was fully involved in the smile (a necesary component for a true smile!). The addition of the Iraqi girl smiling is a great one. The theme of smiles being universal across culture is important, and her smile is also a great example of a genuine one. Perhaps this theme could be developed even more with pictures of smiles of people from even more different cultures. Preferably all of the photos in this article would clearly show contraction of the orbicularis oculi muscle, unless they are labelled explicitly (and correctly) as a different (non-genuine) kind of smile. sallison 09:39, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Fake Smiles
I looked this page after my boss told me that unless I smile more often at customers he would feel it necessary to sack me, as customers have been complaining that I am 'unfriendly'. I am sure there are many others in the same position as me, who may be feeling some resentment. As far as I am concerned, often I will manage to fake a smile, only to lose it as soon as I realise that the customer before me is essentially saying 'smile or else'. This obviously raises various issues, and there are only two comments that I can really think of making about this, the first two workers in the service industry, the second to consumers: To Workers: Like me, I am sure you have felt resentment at essentially being told that unless you fake friendliness, you are sacked. However I have come to the conclusion that this is an inapropriate responce. My boss has no choice. He doesnt want to sack me, but if I cannot smile, the customers will go elsewhere. And the customers also have no choice. They genuinely believe that not being overtly friendly is a sign of hostility. All they can be accused of is having been successfully socialised into today's strange society, where everyone has something to sell and needs to do so. All they are guilty of is stupidity. To Consumers: Please, please have mercy on the workers and dont complain about 'unfriendliness'. If a worker does not smile at you it does not mean that he hates you. The fact that he does not like you is nothing for you to worry about. He does not even know you, how can he be expected to like you?
[edit] Duchenne smile
Lakshmi Nawasasi, a Wikipedia reader posted the following question to the Wikimedia help list.
I was read about a definition of duchenne smile from Wikipedia ... It was very interesting. But I do not find any picture of duchenne smile on that article . If you don't mind, please send me a picture - how a duchenne smile looks like ? ... I am really curious about this Thanks for your help Yours Sincerely , - Lakshmi -
I advised that I understood that the smile of the Iraqi girl at the top of the page was a Duchenne smile. I'd be grateful for any advice. Capitalistroadster 03:34, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Service Industry
It seems like someone was using this page to get back at a boss. I eliminated the unnecessary references to the service industry.
[edit] Smiles + photography
Many pictures from the late 19th century and early 20th show people with somber looks on their faces. I seem to recall that people were told not to smile as opposed to our custom today. Does anyone know if this is true and when smiling for the camera actually started? Maybe Bill Bryson will read this and answer it. He seems to know everything about everything.
- They say that long exposure times (up to 10 minutes) inhibited smiling. You try holding the same smile for the next 10 minutes. Or 2 minutes. I know my facial muscles are likely to seizure after smiling too long (even on my wedding day). However, exposure times bcause much shorter before smiling became more popular. A Google search yielded a few interesting sites [1] [2].
- According to those, there were social norms in play as well.
- Sorry I'm not Bill Bryson. But I am from Durham... North Carolina. JordeeBec 00:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Duchenne smile not always involuntary
Many people are capable of faking a Duchenne smile, should this be added to the article?--(203.59.166.123 - Talk 18:22, 27 August 2006 (UTC))
[edit] Yet more girls smiling?
I've reverted the addition of Image:SaraSmiles.jpg because it does not contribute anything to the article. Wikipedia is not Myspace. If anyone disagrees, let's discuss the issue here. Sandstein 06:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm in agreement with removing the picture... it seems to have been uploaded by her significant other or a stalker (as evidenced by the original caption). The original picture was also said to have come from her MySpace page, until someone pointed that out. A new instance of the same picture was then uploaded saying that it explicitly did NOT come from MySpace, which is sort of suspect...
- The article has enough pictures of girls smiling anyways. Voretustalk 03:27, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- Agree The image contributes nothing. The description does not make sense in the context of an encyclopedia. The only thing this image can contribute has already been put up. The person just put it up for glory or for wierd unusual reasons. You know what, that image is really bothering me, I'm getting rid of it... now... again... EDIT: Forgot to put Sig --PokeOnic 02:49, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
