Talk:SM Mall of Asia
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Very cool article, never realized they had such large malls in South East Asia. Keep up the good work. --Madchester 01:10, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
According to the entry the claim is that it is the third largest mall in terms of retail floor space (at least previously, it seems someone changed it to gross floor area which is probably something disputable). I think I saw a website somewhere that compared the biggest malls in the world including those newer ones in China and if that site is to be believed the retail floor area claim holds [edit: I have included it as the external link "Shopping Mall Studies"]. Actually if that website is correct West Edmonton Mall is smaller than claimed in this Wikipedia article, although the impression I'm left with is that West Edmonton and some of the Chinese malls are larger by other metrics. There's probably room for other candidates to crack the list depending upon definition. For example is the undeveloped land area outside the mall supposed to be included in the tally? Is the outside car park? If you are talking in terms of just the main buildings, I think SM Mall of Asia delivers although I have no first hand point of reference comparing to the other giant malls outside the Philippines.
As a local, looking at the figures I didn't realize that Mall of Asia is only 10-20% larger in retail floor area than the formerly largest mall here in the Philippines, the SM Megamall in Mandaluyong. The quick impression one might have is that Mall of Asia is much larger than the figures would suggest but I think the fact that Mall of Asia is essentially a 2 story mall that is spread out with a third story for additional carpark space while SM Megamall is a more compact five-story mall can affect one's perception.
By the way, I know it's early days yet but I wonder how full those other large malls get? West Edmonton is not located in a very highly populated city and I've heard of it having difficulty retaining tenants. Having just come back from Mall of Asia I can tell you that despite its size the place is stuffed with people. Considering that SM Megamall more than ten years after it opened continues to draw hoards of people despite the passing of time and the opening of many other malls, I get the feeling Mall of Asia might compete in the most jam packed mall category. Those Chinese malls may do even better there though so who knows?
It is a shame that when something legitimately grand is built or achieved in these parts the first to cast doubt or the ones most vociferous and intent on speaking ill of it are those for whom it is built for. So many crabs. In my opinion that entire section questioning the building's structural integrity is inappropriate for this article and smacks of rumor but since it does give what could be considered additional information I won't be the one to change it.
What I would like to see included in the article is a wide angle picture of the inside of the mall during a weekend when it is full of people. That may give a pretty good idea of just how big and popular it is.
Do you even know how to read and understand what you read. If you do. Have read the article saying the third biggest mall in the world IN TERMS OF GROSS FLOOR SIZE next to China's biggest mall.
I am new zealander and i travel a lot. I have seen all the malls you have mentioned. and I have been to Mall of Asia. YES i can say third biggest mall in the world.
Is it the 3rd largest ?
[edit] Malaysian malls
There are several in KL that are advertised as larger. Eg Berjaya Times Square 7.5million, Midvalley 4.5million, 1 Utama 5million. (all in square feet)
- I think it depends on the criteria being measured. You can measure the size of a mall by floor space, retail floor space, etc. --Madchester 15:57, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
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- i think its just false advertising. Offhand, i can count quite a number in China that are also larger. eg South China mall 10million, Golden Resources 7million, Beijing 5million, Panda 4.5million, Grandview 4.5million
- Anyone can cite a source supporting this "3rd largest" claim? Or else it should be removed from the page. changed 05:18, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Changed it into "one of the biggest malls" to make it NPOV. --Jojit fb 06:16, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
So I see nothing about my (beloved) Mall of America. Did it shrink in size? Please, I hope not! Help! Acidradio 07:34, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
What about its notable shops? (e.g. SM Mall of Asia opened the country's first IKEA and Sears [it's just an example]) - 202.81.183.192 18:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
--- Well, they (SMMoA) do claim they are the largest mall in Asia to date. I saw an info-stand inside the mall where facts are written, at least facts "in their PoV". When I get back there I'll take a picture of their claim. ---
Berjaya Times Square is indeed larger when it comes to gross floor size. However, much of the mall's upper stories are closed. Actually, some even consider the mall a white elephant.
I'll stick to my belief that Mall of Asia is still the larges in South East Asia and perhaps the world's second largest outside China. Can anyone confirm if this is larger than the West Edmonton Mall? -Fifteencounts
--- Mall of Asia does not have IKEA nor Sears. It has the country's first Marrionaud and Krispy Kreme stores. Besides, it also has the Philippines' first IMAX Theater
[edit] Upper Class?
"It is the second SM mall to cater to the upper and upper-middle class"
Does it? Everytime I go there, the few "upper class" people that I see are swamped by the hordes of...well...more common people. Is this in a press release by SM or something? Shrumster 10:23, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Size and Effect
It's been a while since I have left the Philippines, and being here in Thailand for almost over a year- I could say that sizes can only be measured technically. As here in Bangkok- malls tend to grow tall unlinke in the Philippines malls spread wide like farmlands. I would rather encourage architects and engineers to tour around the world first before designing another mall. Practicality should be weighed not just with numbers and construction should be noted as surely this race of giant malls are designed by untested sturctural designs- 50% Profit oriented 30% aesthetics 20% safety and others. Most companies are careful in safety because of legal actions which can be posed against them.
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- Referring to "Classes" in the Philippines... I am not concerned much about the contest, but the effect of malls to the national industry. Conceals reality. Studies should be made on the effects of malls economically. Trade and commerce are shifting towards an imbalanced growth. Thanks but no thanks. Aesthetically it's beautiful, but there is something else better. Malls create more spending than profit for the citizens there... I just badly wish it created attraction for tourists, somehow.
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- Which makes me think- why not build bridges to connect some islands and reduce ferry accidents..supported by the rich and tycoons in the Philippines. A REAL PUBLIC SERVICE.
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[edit] issue about the mall of asia being a high-end mall.
well judging from most of the stores and restaurants, even cinema ticket prices, this one's a high-end mall. if this a lower to middle income mall, why whould it have high-end stores such as Zara, Marks & Spencer, Charriol, Tag Heuer etc.?(this stores are considered high-end in the Philippines) or having cinema ticket prices ranging from P150-P350?Akosikupal 10:54, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
