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Contents 1 White castle 2 Disambiguating 3 Methods 4 Backdoor 5 History

[edit] White castle

My mistake on thinking the white castle burger is spelled the same. I kept the link there because I think other people might make the same mistake. CyborgTosser 20:10, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguating

I bumped heads (gently) with DEng while editing this page. I'm going to suggest a disambiguation strategy here, and if there's no disagreement I'll implement it in a few days:

• Create slider (disambugation) with links to leg spin and parachute, and probably also Slyder.
• Leave slider as the baseball definition only, which I think is the primary meaning. Have a For other uses, see slider (disambiguation) link at the top.

I think that should be sufficient, as the text on the parachuting definition is pretty much duplicated, in better context, on parachute. If the material particular to the parachuting slider grows and exceeds that already on parachute, it can merit its own article at slider (parachute) or somesuch, linked to from the disambig. -dmmaus 13:57, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

implemented DEng 20:34, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Methods

"How do I throw this thing?" was the question I was looking to answer when I viewed this article. It wasn't! Could someone who knows "be bold" and add that to the article? Zerbey 05:07, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Backdoor

Define backdoor slider?

A backdoor slider is a hard breaking pitch that travels safely outside the hitting zone where the batter has maxiumum plate coverage, but then has late movement and veers over the corner. The purpose of a well thrown backdoor slider is to fool the batter into taking the pitch, and have the umpire call it a strike. 'Backdoor' in that it's a surreptituous attempt to gain strike 3, and that from the batter's vantage, the 'backdoor' is the area just off the plate's outside corner.

Its most accurate to call a pitch a backdoor slider if the pitcher is righthanded and the batter is lefthanded. Lefthanded pitchers throw breaking balls that approach from the outside frequently, using that tactic as a core pitching strategy. Its anticipated behavior from lefties, and therefore not surreptitious and not 'backdoor'. And when a righthanded pitcher throws a slider outside to a righthanded batter, the pitch is breaking away, and not in - so its merely a 'slider away' or 'slider low and away', as they are frequently called.

[edit] History

Can someone please add some history to this article? When was this pitch invented? Who was the first pitcher to use it? What was the reaction of players and fans of the time to this newfangled pitch? -dmmaus 23:40, 9 July 2006 (UTC)