Talk:Skiddaw

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[edit] Third or fourth highest?

The Wikipedia page for Helvellyn says that it is the third highest mountain in England, presumably because it counts Sca Fell Pike and Sca Fell as separate mountains, making them the highest and second highest respectively. To be consistent with this, shouldn't the Skiddaw page say that Skiddaw is the fourth highest mountain? Alternatively, if Sca Fell Pike and Sca Fell are considered to be one mountain, shouldn't the Helvellyn page should be changed to say that Helvellyn is second highest? 88.109.64.130 15:03, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Of course the definition of what constitutes a mountain and what is only part of another one is not clear.

However, I would suggest that we look at how relevant external sources categorise Scafell Pike and Sca Fell, and try to go with the majority.

• Wainwright includes them as separate fells. (See List of Wainwrights)
• Only Scafell Pike is listed in the List of_Marilyns in England. (Though the gap is "just less than the 150m required for Scafell to enter the Marilyn list"[1] and appears to be shown in some (old?) Marilyn lists[2].)
• They are listed separately in the List of Hewitts in England.

On the basis of these, I'd go for the majority, and say Sca Fell and Scafell Pike should be considered distinct mountains. Therefore Helvellyn would be the third highest and Skiddaw should be changed to say it is the fourth highest. --David Edgar 16:14, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree, most sources would regard Scafell and Scafell Pike as separate mountains I think. However, I've mentioned both points of view to be inclusive. --Blisco 19:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)