Talk:Skateboarding slang
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[edit] Cleanup
I don't know much about Wikipedia's standards yet, but it looks to me like this article could use some clarification, especially on the descriptions of the tricks. A person who doesn't skateboard wouldn't understand a lot of this article. I'm adding a cleanup template, no offense =). Good work for your first article, though. -Domokato 00:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge from Jitter (culture)
The article on Jitter is unverified and unecessary. Wikipedia is not Urban Dictionary, and the article is about terminology that is not well known on a wide basis. I have decided to propose a merge rather than a delete as there is possibly some content on there that could be saved and put into a paragraph on this article Robdurbar 20:35, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Jitter article
I have to admit to bias - the article is by my 12-year-old son, represents his, unaided and unprompted, wiki-debut and shows a blossoming interest in shared learning that deserves encouragement. But even without those caveats, I think I'd still disagree that the topic should be merged with skateboarding slang when 'Chav' stands alone. In the UK, these two tribes are as visible and as potent now as Mods & Rockers, Hippies/Goths & Skinheads were in their day - each, largely, a youthful reflection of the UK class divide.
- I would disagree completely. As a teenage in the UK, I would say that the divisions are far less clear and that the 'skater group' is much smaller. From a more objective view, the reason that 'chav' gets its own article is that it the term and the idea have become used in day to day life, and in the media and in the dictionary. Jitter - I would suggest - has not had the same use and may - as I suspect - be a regional term. Now, an article entitled 'skater culture in the UK' or something may well be a valid creation. Robdurbar 01:34, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi, i'm FreemDeem and I created the article. I am not really aware that the term Jitter is used outside North Somerset in the UK as I haven't investigated it. I am also a teenager in the UK and I am just letting people know what happens in my corner of the country. My school has been ripped apart by the Jitter/Chav clash that I mentioned in the article, and everything I put into the article is true. I would be happy to edit it and mention that Jitters are hugely dwarfed in number by Chavs. I would also be happy to mention that the term is only used in North Somerset, if someone were to tell me what terms are used elsewhere in the country. FreemDeem
- The point is that to be included in Wikipedia you need 'verifiable' 'proof'. This is a written document from a reputable source that others can check. For example, if there is a school website or local newspaper that uses the term - then it could be included of its own merit. Wikipedia cannot be home to the slang of every school unless there is evidence that it is used in the outside world. If someone were to come to the article on Jitter, how would they know that this is not a completely made up term? To bring us back to the 'chav' phenonemon - you'll note that wikipeida does not include entries on the multitude of regional terms for this. Robdurbar 12:10, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
In that case Rob, I will find some written proof and show it. So long as no-one destroys my article. FreemDeem
OK I surrender. I have no proof. And also I must say that for someone on the outside looking in, someone has done a very good job of describing the phenomenon. FreemDeem 16:40, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] This is not intended to be a list of tricks
And that's whats it's becoming. Anyone who knows about skate tricks should go and add what they know to the already extensive database of skate tricks that has already been established.
This article is intended as a list of slang terms used by skaters, not tricks that skaters do.
I'm going to delete the list of tricks (some info is inaccurate, and all the accurate info is already in the List of Skateboarding Tricks.) Then I will expand on what actual slang is in there.
[edit] Cleanup
I cleaned this article up, but it is going to need a lot of work. --Liface 23:44, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Attention: Slang Glossary policy discussion underway
Slang glossaries violate the following policy:
Wikipedia is not a dictionary or a usage or jargon guide. Wikipedia articles are not:
- Dictionary definitions. Because Wikipedia is not a dictionary, please do not create an entry merely to define a term. An article should usually begin with a good definition; if you come across an article that is nothing more than a definition, see if there is information you can add that would be appropriate for an encyclopedia. An exception to this rule is for articles about the cultural meanings of individual numbers.
- Lists of such definitions. There are, however, disambiguation pages consisting of pointers to other pages; these are used to clarify differing meanings of a word. Wikipedia also includes glossary pages for various specialized fields.
- A usage guide or slang and idiom guide. Wikipedia is not in the business of saying how words, idioms, etc. should be used. We aren't teaching people how to talk like a Cockney chimney-sweep. However, it may be important in the context of an encyclopedia article to describe just how a word is used to distinguish among similar, easily confused ideas, as in nation or freedom. In some special cases an article about an essential piece of slang may be appropriate.
Due to the many AfDs which are initiated to enforce this policy and due to the resistance to such deletion by defenders of the glossaries, I have started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#Slang glossaries to rewrite the policy in order to solve this problem and to readdress this question: should slang glossaries by allowed on Wikipedia? --List Expert 23:47, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- vote rename to 'skateboard terminology' and include all non-intuitive skateboard trick names. Spencerk 18:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Comment, there's already many skateboarding trick pages (see skateboarding tricks). As a skateboarder, I can tell you that this page is not needed. --Liface 20:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Recomendations
Entries such as Bank (n.), Hesh/Heshen (adj./n.), Hubba (n.), Manual-pad (n.), Pumping (v.), and Quarter-pipe (n.) are terms that are quite prominent in skateboarding slang, but are not explained here. Also the terms backside/frontside may be considered slang or descriptions of a trick and could be explained here if others consented. I also wish to alphabetize the list for convenience, if this is alright please say so...HeckaLike 00:52, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
