Talk:Six Nations Championship

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Contents 1 Other discussion 2 Millennium Trophy 3 Centenary Quaich 4 Requested move 5 Irish flag 6 France 7 Sports Infobox & Trophy 8 RBS Sponsorship 9 Records 10 good article nomination 11 U-21 tournament

[edit] Other discussion

Who captained France to five nations victory in 1959?

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The competition is something of an anomaly since the Irish team is comprised of players from both Northern Ireland and the Republic. It is only in rugby union that the north and south of Ireland provide a combined team.

This is fundamentally incorrect. Very many sports are organised on an all-Ireland basis. -Gabriel Beecham/Kwekubo 23:23, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Calcutta Cup needs adding.

and the Millennium Trophy.

[edit] Millennium Trophy

The article stated that the Millennium Trophy has been contested since 2000. However the Millennium Trophy article, and other sources state that the trophy was commissioned in 1988 ; the website also mentions Ireland winning it in 1993 and 1994. Gives a list of winners back to 1998.Tonywalton  | Talk 14:24, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

The cup celebrates Dublin's millenium rather than THE millenium. Perhaps that is why people get confused.GordyB 12:18, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Centenary Quaich

I have never heard of this "trophy", has anyone else ever heard of it? I searched the web and only found one mention of it with regard to rugby, wheras the Millennium Trophy and the Calcutta Cup return thousands of links, has someone just made this up or is there such a thing? 194.125.110.201 15:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I also have not heard of it before, but this BBC report refers to it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/low/northern_ireland/2771949.stm) and so it is obviously geniune.GordyB 15:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

[edit] Irish flag

With regards to the Irish flag used beforethe free state, would it not make more sense to use the cross of St. Patrick then the Tricolour and Ulster flags?

Musungu jim 13:15, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

This was voted on at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rugby_union, the conclusion was that the shamrock was the popular choice. I somehow missed this page when converting the various flags to shamrocks.GordyB 13:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

It's a little more complex than I first thought, the [[Image:Irish clover.jpg |{{{1|20}}}px]] image that I used on other pages is too big (and doesn't have 'Ireland' coming after it, if I rescale it to 1|15 it is the right height but not wide enough. This will have to wait while I try to find a solution. I think probably the best thing I can do is to edit the image file used by this page rather than try to insert a different image.GordyB 14:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] France

Who actually kicked France out in 1930, was it the international rugby football board, or a decesion made by a 5N board of some kind?? 144.131.202.34 06:06, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I think the RFU was largely behind it. The IRFB were up and running at the time but IIRC the RFU held half the seats (the French not being represented), the SRU were even more fanatical about amateurism than their English counterparts. The Irish probably didn't care and the Welsh might have sympathised.GordyB 13:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sports Infobox & Trophy

I've added the Sports infobox that's started to be used on articles. Also I've moved the trophy picture further down the article - I realise RWC has it at the top, but it's fair use and therefore must be accompanied by critical commentary and not used for decoration purposes. Therefore I've put it next to the trophy section of the article - here fair use can probably be claimed. Alexj2002 15:09, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RBS Sponsorship

Anyone know how much the RBS actually pay in Sponsorship? JulianHensey 17:52, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Records

Maybe this should be split into Six Nations Championship records and statistics? It was just listed as a GA nom, and a big unreferenced list at the end of the article is no good. It should be a summary like the Crusaders article, which is a current GA. Cvene64 15:52, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd go along with that, the list of stats is unappealing and will doubtless be brought up in the GA nom. The Rambling Man 11:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd support that. I think the article may fail GA though, not referenced well enough. - Shudda ^talk 21:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd Support splitting it and yes its not that well referenced and the article needs to be wikified a lot..Cometstyles

I agree with the split: The current section clutters up the article and there are many more records that have'nt been mentioned. к1иgf1$н£я5ω1fт 17:22, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] good article nomination

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is well written.

   a (prose): b (structure): c (MoS): d (jargon):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (inline citations): c (reliable): d (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

5. It is stable.

   

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

   a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

7. Overall:

   a Pass/Fail:

the page needs more citations before it can be classed as a good article Themcman1 15:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] U-21 tournament

Anyone have any info on the under 21s 6N? So we can add it in like the Womens is. Goldman07 15:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)