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    [edit] Alan Ball

    Alan Ball has commented publicly--notably in a Globe and Mail article that I've now lost--that much of his inspiration for the show was Thomas Lynch's book The Undertaking: Life Studies from the Dismal Trade; would people find that helpful when thinking about Six Feet Under in this context?

    [edit] Fisher & Sons

    The article refers to the funeral home as Fisher & Diaz, which is correct for much of the show, but it did start out and end as Fisher & Sons?

    SPOILER If you have seen the finale, you'll know that Fisher & Diaz returns to Fisher & Sons when Federico is bought out by David & Keith. The balls in your court. Sfufan2005

    [edit] Sources

    Infomration on writers/directors came from:

    [edit] Major/supporting?

    What makes characters like Keith and George supporting characters, as opposed to major characters? --DrBat July 3, 2005 19:14 (UTC)

    • Keith is definitely a major character, as reflected in Characters of Six Feet Under. George, while appearing in many episodes and having a slight story arc of his own, remains a supporting role. Sixhoursago 01:15, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] List of Episodes

    • I gave the episodes a special article just like the deaths. Hope that's OK with everyone. Sfufan2005 July 6, 2005 21:56 (UTC)

    [edit] Characters

    I gave characters own article, Characters of Six Feet Under, but added a chart with a brief outline on each character on the main page. Hope everyone likes it and feel free to proofread for grammar. 67.80.211.57 00:12, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

    I had originally edited the characters table to remove the finale details since this is not relevant information to the article. All that is needed is a basic character description - details can be found elsewhere. However my changes were reversed. To the person who reversed them you should know that you are doing nothing more than spoiling an excellent show for people that have not yet seen the final episode.
    There is a spoiler warning at the top of the article. I think that's sufficient warning for those who haven't seen the finale. Since this is an encyclopedia, it makes sense to include important information about the character, such as the details of their death. There's also the fact that almost all the deaths occur in the epilogue. Knowing that a character dies at some point in the far future likely won't decrease anyone's enjoyment of the show. Carbonite | Talk 16:13, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
    The fact that the deaths are revealed at all is a surprise twist to the show. I think the surprise of it is a significant part of its success as an epilogue. Most people thought the show would end when Claire was shown driving away. While I understand the desire to be an encyclopedia, and thus unbiased and thorough, I think there are alternate ways to structure the information so that it does not spoil so carelessly.
    It seems likely that someone who has just started to watch the show, such as on DVD, would read the list of characters to become more familiar with the sometimes daunting ensemble cast. In this case, which I think is the most likely case, we should take care not to reveal too much detail. I think an acceptable solution is to make a page or section specifically for the finale. I will do this myself if the idea gets any support.
    This happened to me - I'd just got the s5 box set and then read here that they all die at the end and it kinda ruined it for me... wish it hadn't. Romansanders 17:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
    Finally, I'd like to point out these spoilers in the characters table for being poorly written or containing hearsay: "Dies in 2051 at age 82 with her brother Billy talking her ear off", "Speculation that she may have been pregnant in the finale", "She is then murdered in 2003". skilless
    The only significant character I noticed that was left off this list was Father Jack. I would add him but I don't know how many episodes he was in; I would guess around 5. --Diamondthieves 18:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
    In the montage in the series finale doesn't it appear that Anthony, David's son, is with a man and is gay. I can't tell 100%, but it seems like a significant detail.--Diamondthieves 18:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
    Shouldn't Keith be included in the family tree as David's spouse with their adopted children Durrell and Anthony? I'm pretty sure that in the last episode there is a clip of Keith and David getting a joined union, but even if there isn't, the fact that they have children together means that Keith should at least be on the chart, if not actually connected to David with a marriage link. I would make this change myself, but the family tree formatting is foreign to me and I don't want to mess up someone's nice work. --Sprky182 12:17, 18 October 2006
    I deliberately excluded the events in the last few minutes of the series in the family tree. Yes, David and Keith get married (or something similar) there, but if we would include this, we also would've to include that Claire becomes a mother, Durrell and Anthony both marry and/or have children, David has a new partner and so on. If there could be a disctinction between "being married" and "being together" in the family tree template, I'd be all for including Keith, Durrell and Anthony. --Conti|✉ 13:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Spoiler warning

    The contents of the page mention at least two major plot twists. I tried to figure out a way to separate them such that the spoiler warning could go somewhere besides the top but there's no way unless the flow of the text is ruined - see the quick mention of Lisa for an example. For someone watching the show on DVD that's only seen the first few seasons this would be a MAJOR revelation.

    I say change it. The structure of this article is too messy, and too large to seem comprehensive, in the correct manner. It shoudl begin with an introduction of the series, the themes and production. Then info about the plot over the seasons. Then more production info & trivia. What do people think of this?
    • I'm sorry I disagree. This article is updated constantly and changed and this is the purpose for a spoiler tag. When I moved the characters to their own special article it sort of eliminated a lot of plot detail. The characters list on the main page just needs to be simplified. Sfufan2005 18:51, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

    You can use accents with Spanish Surnames: Díaz, Rodríguez, López... If you guys have any doubts, don't hesitate to ask native people :)

    Gaudio 10:50, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] Nathaniel and Isabel (Books)

    Are Nathaniel and Isabel a real book series or Not ?--Brown Shoes22 23:54, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

    • No, they were fictional books which were made for the series. Sfufan2005 00:13, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] Title image

    Who thinks the main image should be the one with the entire cast (located in the trivia section), and not the image in the opening credits w/the tree? --DrBat 20:02, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

    I actually like the title image, and many other articles contain the title image as well The West Wing, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, Seinfeld. I don't really see what the big deal is. Sfufan2005 21:07, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
    Agree - cast image should go under cast. A show is not the cast. An different show could have an identical cast, while the cast in a single show can change radically. mgekelly 16:23, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

    Just added a little bit to the Trivia section, the original point was contradictory.

    --155.143.199.124 03:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Choice of words

    There was a peculiar choice of words in the paragraph about Six Feet Under's elements of magical realism. I changed "In the later seasons, a similar device is used..." to "A similar device is occasionally used..." as this device was evident as early as the Pilot episode in which David imagines screaming at someone. Anyone disagree? Mawied 08:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


    [edit] Season 1 Teasers

    Six feet under had teasers for season 1 as well but they arent listed, nor could I find any links. Anyone knows if they are available on the net as they conveyed the mood of Six Feet Under quite well and spurred people who didnt really know about the series to watch the pilot.

    [edit] DVDs

    I've thoroughly corrected the DVD section with organized and complete information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SeptemberX1990 (talk • contribs).

    Thanks for your help! Just a reminder to please remember to sign your name with four tildes (~)Sfufan2005 19:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

    I realize people don't visit the SFU page so I'll put this in capitals to grab attention...WILL SOMEONE ADD A PICTURE OF THE COMPLETE SERIES ON THE DVD SECTION...and I just finished updating the DVD section fixing the audio and video summaries and fixing info about the complete series.. thank u SeptemberX1990

    [edit] Emmy and Golden Globe Awards

    I added an awards list but it only contains the Emmys and Golden Globes. I didn't want to add the nominations because I think having too much would make it look too cluttered and unorganized. SeptemberX1990 14:15, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Organization

    I moved the recurring characters and celebrity cameo appearances after the main characters list, moved the "list of DVD releases" link below the promotions and moved sheduling changes above the trivia to make the page look organized. SeptemberX1990 14:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Family tree

    Shouldn't the family tree include David's marriage to Keith (and the adoption of their two sons) and the marriage of Claire to her future husband? Keith was very much part of the family throughout the series, and the adoption happened during the series, and whilst the rest are future events, they are destined to happen, so why not include them? -Kez 22:36, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

    I don't see why either couldn't be added. If someone knows how to (I don't really know how to work the template), they should be added. --DrBat 23:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
    Without reading your original suggestion, I came to the same conclusion and completed an attempt at updating the family tree. --Bpier 10 January 2007

    [edit] Removal of link that spoils series finale

    I removed the external link that spoils the series finale (which it did to me!)

    Any objections?

    This was the link:

    Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow.

    obituaries of main characters dying in series finale

    -Gazongagizmo 11:04, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] First gay inter-racial Television kiss?

    It was suggested [here] that Six Feet Under portrayed the first gay inter-racial television kiss. Can anyone confirm, and provide an air-date? (or just fix the article in question) Charles (Kznf) 15:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

    David an Keith kissed in the first episode (and in many others, too! :)), which aired, according to List of Six Feet Under episodes, on June 3, 2001. --Conti|✉ 16:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Main List of Characters

    There seems to be no rationale for inclusion in the main chart about the characters. Clair's school friends, many who only appeared in a handful of episodes, get listed, but Tracy Montrose Blair is not? Bravo uses the clip of her asking "Why do people have to die?" in all their promos for the show. RoyBatty42 19:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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