Talk:Siti Nurhaliza
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[edit] Neutrality
This article is badly in need of neutrality. See WP:NPOV. Brighterorange 21:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
I agree that this article is sorely in such a need as mentioned above by Brighterorange.Arthur Oon 17:50, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
I dispute the neutrality of this article as well Shikinluv 01:48, 12 June 2005 (UTC)
I agree. I edited this article only to make the text more clear; the original that was on this site was straight off the artist's website.
I have noted that the series of edits to this article have not done much to bring it to the level of neutrality expected and I have freely edited the article as I have seen fit.I suggest to the pioneer contributor to perhaps add to the article some of her concerts or perhaps other aspects of her career which many users may not be familiar with rather than to constantly praise her ethereal voice of which other users have been, of no doubt, made aware of this fact. Arthur Oon 7 July 2005 19:13 (UTC)
- I've given this a shot, though this is my first attempt. The only problem is that I seem to be removing a lot of detail in doing so. -x42bn6 08:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
60.49.116.240 has taken this article back to the original (i.e. the one that reads like an advertisement). Or did the second version also read like an advertisement? Should I revert? Nick L. 21:45, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
I prefer the old version. It's easier to work on. But anyhow, both needs a clean up badly. how do you convert back to the old version? can someone do it. --Haniff 22:54, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Done. Nick L. 00:48, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
I've deleted the part where it says "foreign media praised Siti's perfomance in Albert hall." Will only approve this if there is a source. --Haniff 08:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Origin
By the way..who's this fellow??Haniff? Yes the medias praised her. I only got the clips of the foreign reporters. I know you are not Siti's fan. You shouldn't be here.
Do we really have to state the names of her sibblings? I need opinions before deleting it. If we browse the page of other international artis, i.e britney spears, i dont think they list the names of the sibblings. --Haniff 23:20, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Rework, please comment
I tried to rework the article and add some extra details while making it more NPOV. Please comment and feel free to edit as you see fit. Nick L. 01:01, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Malapropism
I came across the Wikipedia page for Siti Nurhaliza when I was reading the Wikipedia page on malapropism. A malapropism is using a similarly sounding word which has a totally different meaning than that intended by the speaker/writer.
One of the items listed in Wikipedia malapropism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malapropism) in popular culture was: "My nipple."(i.e. dimple) — Malaysian singer Siti Nurhaliza when asked what is her best facial feature.
This Wikipedia page on Siti must have been written by Siti herself or someone who grew up with her. These are the malapropism and inappropriate phrases that need to be corrected.
In the section Career development:
In response to her successful performance. In her country also, she's known as one of the succesfull 'brand'+ businesswoman. She's currently been taught as 'Most Richest Artistes' in Malaysia.
This sentence is hanging. What is in response? In response to her successful performance.
What is the purpose of the word "also" In her country also, ...?
Did you mean
she is currently THOUGHT of as
rather than
She's currently been taught as
which in Malay would mean,
Beliau sedang sudah diajar sebagai. Or, in coloquil Malay, Beliau sedang kena diajar sebagai.
In Malay grammar, sedang sudah itself would be a conflict in tense.
What you meant must be
Beliau kini disangka sebagai.
It should be
She is currently thought of as.
To use "been", the predicate should imply a completed performance as in
In the past, she has been thought of as ... (and now she is no longer).
The phrase 'Most Richest Artistes' inappropriately uses redundant superlatives. Did you mean The Richest of Artistes
or The Richest of Most Artistes
or Almost the Richest of Artistes
or in singular the Richest Artiste?
Should be successful not successfull.
Should I say She is a beautifull woman or She is a beautiful woman?
I recommend rephrasing the sentence to
In her country, she is also known as one of the most successful businesswomEn and cultivated brandnames. She is currently thought of as the 'Richest Artiste' in Malaysia.
One [singular] of the [plural].
One [singular] among many.
One man of the greatest men alive.
is shortened to One of the greatest men alive.
Therefore it should be
One of the most successful businesswomen(plural).
She is the most successful artiste(singular, only one successful artiste and she is the one).
She is one of the most successful artistes(singular from a plural pool of extremely successful artistes).
In the section on Romance, I recommend rephrasing
Siti has previously been romantically-linked to many fellow artists including Zamani, Anuar Zain and Fazley.
to
Siti has previously been romantically linked to quite a number of fellow ARTISTES including Zamani, Anuar Zain and Fazley.
I recommend rephrasing
The rumour went that she would be getting married in 2006, to which her response was to neither deny nor confirm
to
The rumour went on that she would be getting married in 2006, to which she neither confirmed nor denied
I recommend rephrasing
Many surmise that the family visited in order to arrange for the wedding.
to
Many SURMISED that the family visited in order to arrange for the wedding.
Instead, this should have been more appropriate as the word surmise sounds too huge a word to be used in this context.
Many believed that the family visited in order to arrange for the wedding.
I have a problem with the logic of this sentence
which did not go down well with at least 49% of respondents to a local TV SMS.
It should be
which did not go down well with 49% of respondents to a local TV SMS.
What is the purpose of the phrase at least? When you take a statistical sample, you would say 49% of the respondents, even if it meant you had rounded the number to the nearest integer. 49 looks like an oddly deliberate number. Why not 45%, or half? To apply the term at least you need to show that you are estimating on the estmate of 49%. Yes, in Statistics you can make an estimation of an estimate. A statistical sampling is an estimate itself on the whole population.
More recently, in the past few years Siti was rumoured to be in a relationship with a prominent Malaysian businessman
should be rephrased to
More recently, Siti is being rumoured to be having a relationship with a prominent Malaysian businessman for the past few years.
Or did you mean
For the past few years Siti has been rumoured to be having a relationship with a prominent Malaysian businessman
?
In which case it is better to drop the phrase More recently to avoid confusion.
Datuk Khalid Mohamed Jiwa, who is 20 years older then her
should be rephrased to
Datuk Khalid Mohamed Jiwa, who is 20 years older THAN she.
Note the written malapropism (or typo?) then.
Comparatives using the accusative pronoun is frequently used that it almost becomes accepted coloquil usage. Not many people would call this a mistake nowadays but under certain situations it can create confusion.
One should say She is taller than I
rather than She is taller than me.
The reason is the implied I am tall as in
She is taller than I am tall.
She she can mount a horse faster than I can mount a horse.
which can be shortened to
She can mount a horse faster than I.
not
She can mount a horse faster than me.
because that would imply
She can mount a horse faster than she could mount me!
Redundant superlatives/comparatives are not acceptable. e.g.
The most fastest runner in the Boston Marathon.
Being a dog is more worst than being a fly.
This is Wikipedia/English. Do not use creole or pidgen English, unless quoting someone. Otherwise, this page should be moved to Wikipedia/Manglish or Malglish or Singlish or Spanglish, whatever.
I notice that in Wikipedia, you can recommend an article to the status of "needing tidying and grammatical correction". I don't know how to do that. Could someone switch this article to that status?
Miamidot 22:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
