Talk:Simo Häyhä

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I don't understand the sentence:

Besides his sniper kills, Simo Häyhä is known to have made well over two hundred kills with a machine gun, a toy which he was very fond of.

Was the machine gun a toy? Did he consider it a toy? As a reader, I was confused by that sentence, which I think is a good reason for revision. However, I have no knowledge on the subject. I hope somebody else fixes it.

--Rustam 20:39, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Although I am not sure whether or not Simo personally considered the machine guy a toy, the author wrote the phrase to show Simo's fondness for the gun, hence the term 'toy'. The gun was rather not a toy to be played around foolishly, but rather one that was used affectionedly. I hope that clarifies the sentence.

If the author was correct and Häyhä did develop some kind of fondness for a particular type of weapon for whatever reason, it was still wrong to call it a toy. A toy isn't designated as such because it's an object of fondness but because it is primarily something to be played with. Guns aren't toys unless they are toy guns. 'Toy' in any other sense is colloquial and probably even wrong. Gest 08:40, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

My guess is that the author who wrote "toy" meant "apparatus", "object", or "machine", just didnt find the word for it. --kooo 07:40, 2004 Nov 23 (UTC)

I think a better word would be "tool" instead of "toy".

Maybe he just had a really old dictionary. "Toy" used to mean "object of affection", and not an object designed solely for play. People could be toys, even. However, it is not correct modern usage to use it that way. Identity0 09:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Pronounciation of the name 2 Funny stuff 3 Gamer Response 4 White Death 5 Kill record unique? 6 Funny story

[edit] Pronounciation of the name

How does one pronounce Simo Häyhä? --84.22.0.13 10:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Go to http://www.mikropuhe.com/demo.asp, then write "Simo Häyhä" to the white blank box, and click "Kuuntele puhe" -> You'll hear how the name is pronounced in Finnish. --213.186.255.129 18:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Funny stuff

This sentence: "Before his injury, the Russians tried several plans to get rid of him, including counter snipers and artillery strikes." reminded me of this. :D

lol yeah, it's not human to kill over 500 ppl alone :).

[edit] Gamer Response

Forum heads over at GameFAQs imagine if Häyhä was just another guy in a FPS: —Nahum Reduta 03:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

• "h4x0r theres no iron sites [sic] for park, zeller or moretti..he must have a l33t internet and amazing sound card cause he heard the artillerly [sic] coming ..o.0" —Ovvnz
• "I hope he gets his stats reset." —Maj2004
• "Wtf, he took a headshot and lived!? He's hacking! D: Wait... his K/D ratio is 705.0? Holy crap..." —Sowaka
• "The thing that sucks about a killstreak that long is that you have to die after you get a 10 killstreak if you want more combat efficiency pins. He got ripped, but I'm sure he got plenty of infiltrator pins and his Gold Sniper Badge." —Cool Dude 7up
• "clearly a genius stat padder." —ValorousBob
• "Aimbot." —nayhem

Whahahaha =D. So funny.

[edit] White Death

If you go to the article white death, it redirects to the Great White Shark page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by KSava (talk • contribs) 20:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Kill record unique?

The article says that 5 kills a day is unique, but Vasily Zaitsev's article says that he killed 225 from 10/11/42 to 17/12/42, which is 6 per day. Furthermore, that article also says that "Zaytsev's remarkable performance was not unique" even amongst the Red Army. Häyhä's rate of kills per hour of sunlight may well be unmatched, but "many" of 505 over 100 days is not, or at least is contradicted elsewhere on Wikipedia. I'm wondering if this article has been the subject of uber-sniper fans or nationalist Finns using incorrect superlatives or simply needs to be better written and sourced. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.188.245.218 (talk) 14:21, 20 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Funny story

Once when Häyhä was in ambush he saw this one soviet soldier having a shit. Häyhä aimed on one handgrenade in a belt acrossing his chest. The grenade didn't blow off. It was a dud. But instead the soldier fell down in the dugout full of shit. He was uninjured cos the grenade stopped the bullet. So there he was lying in a shit hole being unable to come out cos every time he tried Häyhä fired another shot. The episode took several hours before the poor russian got help. Later after war he wanted to meet up with Häyhä to see the bastard who did this to him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.181.185.247 (talk) 02:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC).