Talk:Sigma Kappa

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[edit] Ida Fuller Pierce

Ida Fuller and Ida Fuller Pierce are as far as I can tell the same person. Therefore Ida Fuller (the first person to receive a social security check) is not the same as Ida Fuller Pierce (one of the founders of Sigma Kappa).

According to the ΣΚ page Ida Fuller Pierce died in 1933. [1]
According to the social security history page Ida Fuller filed her retirement claim on November 4, 1939 [2]
I will fix the page to reflect this information. --ImmortalGoddezz 17:35, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps to clear up confusion use what the Promise book uses, "Ida Mabel Fuller." --Amandapb 03:15, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Sigma Kappas

Please refrain from adding wiki people who are red linked. Quite easily the whole section could be scrapped by somebody if they don't feel that it is worth anything to wikipedia since wikipedia is NOT Directories, directory entries, TV/Radio Guides, or a resource for conducting business and it is also not Lists or repositories of loosely associated topics such as quotations, aphorisms, or persons (real or fictional) and the whole section could very easily qualify as listscruft. Also it reflects poorly on Sigma Kappa to have people listed as notable who do not have wikipages of their own.

Additionally before adding something make sure it's verifiable, correct, and the information is from a reliable source. For example somebody keeps adding *Linda Cross Dowdy (Epsilon Epsilon) - managing editor for The Lyons Group and is the creator and owner of Barney, the purple dinosaur featured on the children's show on PBS. Neither Linda Dowdy nor Linda Cross is on wikipedia, but when doing a Google search on her she's is also not the creator or owner of Barney, the purple dinosaur. According to the Sigma Kappa notable website Linda Cross Dowdy is managing editor for The Lyons Group, the creator and owner of Barney, the popular purple dinosaur featured on PBS. She has authored the best-selling children's book, Barney Goes to the Zoo and has been instrumental in the development of 25 Barney book titles published by The Lyons Group's Barney Publishing division, and not the actual creator or owner of Barney. Quite frankly I wouldn't add something to wikipedia that I just found off of a sorority web page either without citation from other sources to back it up. So point #1 please refrain from adding red linked notable Sigma Kappa, that's why the 'go here for other alumnae' link was added. #2 make sure what you add is verifiable and can be cited (WP:RS, WP:V) Thanks. --ImmortalGoddezz 16:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think someone was just "copying off a sorority web page" - the first time (and actually up until now)I have taken the paragraph from the SK site and the Promise book to mean that SHE created Barney. It's an awkwardly worded sentence, but nothing to get all wound up about. I also disagree that it "reflects poorly" on our sorority to have notable people without their own wikipages. I mean, I understand what you're getting at, but I highly doubt anyone is going to look and say, "Look, Sigma Kappa has red linked famous alumnae. They are obviously not a very good organization!" Obviously there's no point to create a link to no where, but "reflects poorly" ? Come on, it's a wikipedia entry - it's not like people are posting pictures of themselves drinking in letters.

--Amandapb 03:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I just noticed this reply. I never said they were copying off the website. What I am getting at is there has been considerable discussion about removing famous alumnae sections all together... There is no reason to have a great big list full of people who do not have wiki articles when they can just go to the link provided and read more about them there. This list pushes wikipedia guidelines and can be easily deleted citing anything on WP:NOT. When deleting the red links there's less reason given for deletion of that particular section. As for the "nobody's going to look and see?" That's right they haven't said it's a very good organization but there have been instances where people have deleted the famous alumnae/alumni sections due to the fact that it's over red linked, and as a list doesn't really belong on wikipedia. (WP:NOT Wikipedia is not a directory, it is not the white pages, it is not a repository of links (internal or external) etc.) Which is why I continue to remove the red linked people. And finally wikipedia is not a rush brochure I know you're proud of your sorority but that doesn't mean that every person that can be considered famous needs to be put in this list. Thanks. --ImmortalGoddezz 18:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)