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Contents 1 Quote 2 Covert Action 3 Does Sid Meier have a brother? 4 Education? 5 Answer to: Does anyone know if he has any family that works in the industry? 6 Kennedy Approach 7 Earliest Game, Floyd of the Jungle? 8 Picture? 9 Place of Birth?

[edit] Quote

"A game is a series of interesting choices" keeps being attributed to Meier, but it's apparently something he just said once. It was never meant to be quoted everywhere like a game design rule. Might want to research this and find the original quote (if its origin is still known anyway).

It's referenced in Soren Johnson's Afterwords to the Civ 4 manual

At a higher level, these increased player choices – or as Sid would put it, “interesting decisions” – are a theme which can be found throughout Civ IV.

Make of that what you will.

[edit] Covert Action

Wasn't Sid Meier involved in that spy game, covert action? Not as popular as the big ones, but really cool game IMHO

Take a look at his rap sheet. I don't see it there. But if the game doesn't exist in MobyGames' database, it wouldn't have it listed there. — Frecklefoot | Talk 17:44, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)

He was involved (lead designer infact). here's the game downloadable at home of the underdogs

[edit] Does Sid Meier have a brother?

About 5 years back, my math teacher in a Maryland high school introduced us to someone with the last name of Meier that he had taught. This man, we were told, was working in the video game industry. He was there very briefly, and it sounded like to me like he was introduced with the name of Fred or Frank. I was always curious if that WAS Sid Meier, or if it was someone else, possibly a brother. Does anyone know if he has any family that works in the industry? -- Addboy 08:56, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)

From MobyGames, here is a link with all the "Meier"'s they have listed in credits of any games in their database (and they have a lot). I don't see a "Fred" or "Frank" but he might have a sibling or two in the list. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 17:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Education?

Anyone know if/where he went to school?

[edit] Answer to: Does anyone know if he has any family that works in the industry?

Well his wife, Susan Meier, works with him at Firaxis. But other familiy members, I dont know yet. InGenX

[edit] Kennedy Approach

Removed the mention of this being one of the first games to use a software voice synthesizer. The first games to use software speech synthesis (even on home computers) date back to the 1970s (even the Castle Wolfenstein games date back to 1981.) --Bri 11:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Earliest Game, Floyd of the Jungle?

I'm not familiar with Sid's early history but one of my favorite games as a kid was "Floyd of the Jungle" by Sid Meier copyright 1982. Maybe it's not his earliest but it's earlier than what wiki says.
[1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.126.161.89 (talk • contribs).

I added the game to his list, but he isn't given credit according to MobyGames. The only credit that appears there is Grant Irani, for the C64 version. There is also and Atari 8-bit version, but no credits have been entered for it. I guess that's the version you linked to. — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture?

Would it be inappropriate to take the image from http://www.firaxis.com/company/bios.php?bioid=56 to put it on his page on Wikipedia? --71.240.45.29 00:42, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes. — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Place of Birth?

I just read an article in the Weekly Standard, 'Civilization' and Its Contents, which stated Sid Meier was born in Canada but raised in Michigan. A fairly common story if he was born in southwest Ontario, and it is hard to imagine why an US writer would make up a detail like that. The writer, Victorino Matus, met with Meier, and obviously did some spade work, so it would seem odd if he got this very basic bio information wrong. See http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/305yuvkp.asp?pg=2 Ratufa 19:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)