Talk:Sibling

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Contents 1 Rare Relationships 2 Sibling Discussion 3 Half-Sibling Discussion 4 Question on Half-Siblings 5 Brother

[edit] Rare Relationships

"It is possible to have a sibling that is more than a half sibling but less than a full sibling. For example, if one of the child's parent's dies and the surviving parent marries a sibling of the deceased spouse and they have a child, the two children would be three-quarter siblings to each other. They would share one parent in common but share all four grandparents. Essentially, the two children would be half siblings through one parental line and first cousins through the other parental line."

It is my motion that this tract be deleted from the article. When doing research, it is next to impossible to come across any material referring to this set-up as "three-quarter siblings." Just because you may share all four grandparents in common does not make you any more a sibling to someone than a run-of-the-mill half-sibling. Your proximity of relationship to your siblings is determined by your parents, and if you share one parent with someone, they are your half-sibling. Even if your father happens to be the uncle of your half-sister, that is irrelevant for definitional purposes. Half-sibling is included in this article because it is a widely-used term; three-quarter sibling is most certainly not, as even light research will reveal. --TheTriumvir 12:55, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sibling Discussion

The link with the Dutch "Broer" is not correct.

In Dutch you have the words Broer (Brother) and Zus (Sister). But there is no translation for Sibling. 213.119.117.182 18:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

And some languages don't seem to have words for just brother or just sister. For example, I believe in Thai there's phi-chai (older brother), nong-chai (younger brother), phi-sow (older sister), nong-sow (younger sister). Neither chai nor sow nor chai-sow are used. Phi-nong may be used to refer collectively to "older and yonger (brothers and sisters)" or even a group of people. Ewlyahoocom 19:59, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Say Sue and Jeff each had a half-sister (Mary) in common. However, Sue has Mary's mother - while Jeff has Mary's father. What kind of relationship would that be between Sue and Jeff? 68.117.18.6 18:38, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether they would even be related at all... —CliffHarris (-T|C|E-) 01:46, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

If I understand your question the way you understand it, then there is no blood relationship between Sue and Jeff and they are classed as step-siblings. Winnow 17:52, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Why is the Simple English article linking to "Sister"?

I'm lazy right now, but there is a slang use of "Bro" check urbandictionary for full description but its basically (if you live in the 909) black dickies, skin/metalmulisha/srh whatever t shirts , same brand, but tilted hiphop fashion hats and dvs/circa shoes. Also, they are huge douchebags.

[edit] Half-Sibling Discussion

"A stepsibling ... bears no blood relation" and "A half sibling ... is a sibling with one shared biological parent" contradict "... many half siblings are stepsiblings and vice versa". On a different note, is an adopted sibling considered a stepsibling?

This is completely inaccurate - no step-sibling is referred to as a half-sibling, and no half-sibling is referred to as a step-sibling. Half-siblings share one biological parent, and therefore if your mother remarries (for example), you do not thereafter refer to a new baby as your "step-sibling." He or she will be your half-brother or sister, and one simply never refers to a half-sibling as a step-sibling. Similarly, since you have to share one parent with a half-sibling by definition, a step-sibling can never be a half-sibling. --TheTriumvir 11:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Adopted siblings are considered your whole-brother or sister by law. While they are not related by blood, adoption means they are your full-sibling from then on. --TheTriumvir 11:55, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Of course it's possible to have half-siblings from adoption, i.e. where one of your two adoptive parents has another (blood or adopted) child who does not share your other parent. jnestorius^(talk) 11:47, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question on Half-Siblings

As those of you who have read my profile know, I have a half-brother. The thing is I love him as a full sibling and consider him my full sibling. I'm also very close to him depsite our age difference(13-14) years. Which brings me to my question: Can half-siblings be considered full siblings even though they just share one parent? My brother's mom is like my step mom and my mom is his step mom if that contributes to anything. PLZ don't delete. This is a serious question. Animeboye 8:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Your question is a good one and sparks a follow-up question. Has your mother adopted your half-brother as her child? If so, he is legally your brother and is considered such for all intents and purposes. One thing you have to realize, though, is that the term "half-sibling" is a word intended to define a particular relationship. While I realize that you feel closer to your half-brother than many people may feel to their full-siblings, he is still defined as your half-brother. This does not mean at all that you two are any less close or that you two are not as close as any brothers in the world. It is just the way that your relationship is defined. One cannot, however, change the definition of the word "half-sibling" simply because they are extremely close to their half-sibling. You are more than allowed to call your half-brother your brother, however, if that is what you are asking. The law and society make virtually no distinction between full-sibling and half-sibling relationships. --TheTriumvir 18:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

All right. I kinda get it. And no. My mom didn't adopt my brother. If you check out my profile, it says "he lived with his mom in Hawaii". My mom is his step mom since she married our dad. His mom is my step mom since even though my dad says they were "never together" she's still related to me in a way. Probably distant. And y'know I think having a sibling, be it a full sibling or half-slibling. Or even an adopted or step sibling is a wonderful gift. A lot of kids don't know how lucky they truly are. I'm glad to have an older brother who I can look up to and count on to help me when I need it. Even if he isn't around a lot. My friend(the "younger brother" one I mentioned) is like that too. he's got two older half-sisters who he doesn't get to see a lot. Oh and again, thanks, Trivumir. That makes me feel better. And helped me with something that's been on my mind for a while. Besides,he's been there for me more than a good majority of our family so that's also why I consider him my full sibling. 'Cuase unlike our dad's side, he really cares about me. One last thing: When you said that the term "half-sibling" is used to define a particular relationship, would that count for siblings who don't have a good reationship or don't see each other a lot? I'm just curious. Animeboye 14:22, December 6, 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Animeboye (talk • contribs) 20:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

By "relationship," TheTriumvir meant "biological relationship." When you ask about people who don't see each other often, you mean "personal relationship." The term "sibling" has a dictionary definition regarding biological relationships that has nothing to do with the personal relationships among people. How you manage your personal relationships is entirely up to you and under your control, and there is nothing wrong with generally referring to him as your "brother" rather than your "half brother." But if you are talking to a genealogist or a lawyer, you will probably want to use the more precise biological definition of "half brother." Laura1822 17:35, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brother

I want all of you to know my brother is a big, fat BITCH! He hits me, yells at me, and makes me do endless pushups. OW! The asshole. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.207.81.145 (talk) 00:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC).