Talk:Showgirls

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what film studio produced Showgirls?

MGM [[David de Paoli]]

I don't recall Nomi pushing Crystal down the stairs? Wasn't it someone else?

No, it was definately Nomi! It was the major turnaround in the plot where Nomi's character changes from "innocently involved in a bad world" to "turned bad." It's also the drive behind her conflict with other character for the rest of the movie (She gets into a fight with her best friend Molly over it and there's a good 3 minutes of footage of them arguing over it because Molly saw the dancer who claims that Nomi was nowhere near Cristal when she fell, and that dancer was looking the other way. That dancer, in turn, is covering for Nomi because Nomi covered for her when she threw the beads on the floor and injured the black dancer previously.) Drama! In the final scene Cristal forgives her, saying "There's always someone younger and hungrier coming down the stairs behind you."

Also notable, it infactually states Nomi pushed Cristal down the stairs to get ahead, but that isn't the case. It's a point of plot contention because those who *do* know that Nomi did, in fact, intentionally push Cristal think she did it to get ahead, when in fact it was an un-meditated, rash reaction to Cristal's treatment of Nomi onstage in the preceeding dance number. 151.197.51.96 05:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I read somewhere that European reaction to the film was more positive than American reaction -- and that French critics view it as a critique of American consumer culture. A blurb about that might be nice.

Hardly surprising - Europeans are more concerned with violence in movies (as opposed to nudity), whereas the American audience can't stand seeing naked human bodies. --Bicycle repairman 23:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

The problem with this movie wasn't the nudity. The problems were a mediocre plot, terrible dialogue, and bad acting. MK2 16:31, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

"Europeans are more concerned with violence in movies..." That's not true, not here in Sweden anyways. We haven't had movie-censorship of any kind since "Casino" (ie 1995). Addicted2Sanity 05:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Missing content regarding the films NC-17 rating

There is some interesting facts regarding the films NC-17 rating that should be included in my opinion such as:

• It was at the time, and likely still is the most widely distributed NC-17 film in the U.S.
• In order to convince many theaters that normally would not show an NC-17 film to show this one, the distributers offered their own security guards to ensure no minors would be able to enter the theaters where it was showing.
• Some anti-obscenity groups, especially some Christian based groups, picketed some theaters for showing the film. This led some theaters that had been showing the film to withdraw it.
• Supposedly, the filmakers originally thought they could use this film to show audiences outside major cities that NC-17 films wheren't simply porno films in disguise. Supposedly, the criticism of how the sexual content was treated in the film was said to give the NC-17 rating a negative connotation with many American audiences causing many studios for a time to avoid releasing films with a NC-17. Instead they where such films would be cutting for a R-rating or released unrated. The moderate success of the NC-17 film The Dreamers, apparently made studios more comfortable releasing NC-17 art films again.

If I find the time I will dig up sources for the above info and ad it myself. --Cab88 11:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rape Scene

I feel like the comments RE: the rape scene need to be referenced or cited, but I'm not sure how. A search on google for "rape scene in showgirls" brings up 21 results, and all of them lead to online discussions which discuss the scene unfavorably. It seems to be almost universally loathed, yet I can find no one authoritative citation of this fact. Pacian 06:25, 29 April 2006 (UTC)