Talk:Shogi variant

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To truly dimensionalize the shogi game you need to put ANOTHER board of the same size (9x9) over or under the original game itself. Also the original rules need to be kept in place. [This is what has been done at rules for 2 boards]. This gives those who think it is to difficult to play on a 3-D board, a chance to try it out.--Paul 21:07, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I found Ko shogi (19x19, played on a go ban) on the Japanese wikipedia. I would like to add this here but it may take some time (hopefully soon). Thanks kwami for opining my eyes to Jp: wiki. --JTTyler 06:16, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

From an editor: I have been (since Sep 05) working to improve the quality of the articles featured here. The content included in some of these articles is massive! As such, I have taken a 20/80 approach, putting 20% of my time to improving 80% of the articles. This is best accomplished by starting with the smallest articles and working up. I am currently (Feb 06) working on tenjiku shogi. This means placing taikyoku at the bottom of my to-do list. After this, I will begin to include new articles as part of this WikiProject to include articles that exsest in jp:wikipedia but not in en:wikipedia. I may also reformat this page at that time as needed to best present the informitive articles linked from here. This will include a separate catogoised list and short discription of games curently listed as “see also” as well as other matereal avalable on resources, hystory, players, themes, stratagy, et al. Anyone who has read thrue many of the chess, chess variant, and go articles on Wikipedia know how exaustive this matereal is and I feel that shogi is no less important. This may take some time of course, I do have a life, but the 2MB of text contributed by kwami and I in the past 6 months is a good start.

For those who wonder about my experience, I have played all but the large board variants but am only a novice. I wuld like to play them all eventually, even if only agenst a computer or on a paper board with paper pieces. Because this is Wikipedia, anyone with any experience level and referenced information may contribute. Especily helpful will be information on stratagy and tactics, or beginning game and end game, not just for shogi variants but in support for the main shogi aritcle itself. Also helpful wil be information translated from Japanese sorces not avalable on the internet. Note too that this information itself can be translated into other Wikipedias sutch as the Icelandic article linked from here. JTTyler 23:03, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] discrepancies

I asked about the discrepancies in promotion on the Japanese Tai shogi talk page, and got this reponse,

諸象戯図式や象棋六種之図式から正確なところを知ることができるように思われますが、両方とも江戸時代の書籍で、現在入手可能かどうか不明です。

『象棋六種之図式』を複写した『雑藝叢書』がありますが、絶版になっています（図書館では閲覧できる可能性あり）。『ものと人間の文化史 23 将棋』(ISBN 4588202316) は現在でも入手可能なので、こちらの記述を参考にするのがよいかもしれません。--Tamago915 2005年10月4日 (火) 14:13 (UTC)

A rough translation is,

I'd think that you could get accurate info from 諸象戯図式 Various Elephant Game Plans or 象棋六種之図式 Plans for 6 Elephant Chess variants, but both are Edo-era publications, and it's not clear where you could get them today.

象棋六種之図式 is reproduced in 雑藝叢書 Misc. Arts Library, but this is out of print. (You might be able to find it at a library.) Because ものと人間の文化史 23 将棋 A Cultural History of People and Things, 23 Shogi (ISBN 4588202316) can still be obtained today, it might be a good idea to check its description.

kwami 21:52, 4 October 2005 (UTC)