Talk:Shit sandwich

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The pages for shit sandwich, cluster fuck and so on should go into a dictionary like Wiktionary. They aren't really Encyclopedia Articles about the word and its social impact like fuck is.

In all fairness, perhaps they should be incorporated into a single article U.S. military slang terms where the social impact of the phrases could be explored, along with the mindset behind their creation.. do you expect much else when you put dozens of young testosterone-filled men together under highly stressful conditions? ;) --Dante Alighieri 20:15, 20 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Yeah, put all the shit in one sack, as it were, eh?


This term is not special to the US military - it has certainly been used in London for a long time.Harry Potter 02:11, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)


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What, the hell. This has to be the worst, poorest formed Wikipedia entry ever. Dudes. Delete this or start from scratch. JK 09:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] From Votes for deletion/August 15

  • Shit sandwich and HUA quotient - I don't think these articles add much to the sum of human knowlege. Mintguy 16:29, 15 Aug 2003 (UTC)
    • Without considerable expansion or revision, which I am at a loss to see how it would happen, the former should be gone. --Daniel C. Boyer 17:26, 15 Aug 2003 (UTC)
      • I don't know, I've heard this typically southern expression all my life. It might be better off as a wikidictionary entry rather than an encyclopedia article.Ark30inf 17:34, 15 Aug 2003 (UTC)
        • No, it's clear that Wikipedia, not Wiktionary, must function as the idiom dictionary. There are thousands of such expressions and almost all need much more explanation than a conventional dictionary should offer: culture, history, etc. For instance the fact that it's a US South and military expression should be mentioned in the article. EofT
    • I'm against deletion. We aren't here to "add to the sum of human knowledge", but perhaps, we can save some poor bastard who only barely speaks English or has only recently moved to the US South, from a few hours of anxiety between the time his colleagues tell him that the boss will "feed him a shit sandwich" in an upcoming meeting, and that meeting. If we move this, let's move it to Simple English Wikipedia, where maybe simple idioms can be explained more justifiably than here. EofT
    • Leave 'em. -- Infrogmation 19:41, 20 Aug 2003 (UTC)
    • The shit sandwich article has been expanded into something resembling a real article, keep it. --Dante Alighieri 19:42, 20 Aug 2003 (UTC)
      • Upon further reflection, I think that shit sandwich, cluster fuck, SNAFU and the like should be combined into a new article (U.S. military slang terms perhaps) which can deal with the phenomenon on a larger scale. Some sociologist out there must be interested in this sort of terminology. --Dante Alighieri 20:18, 20 Aug 2003 (UTC)
        • "Shit sandwich" is found in USA slan far beyond military usage. --Infrogmation 22:03, 29 Aug 2003 (UTC)
    • I'd say move to Wiktionary. Etymology, regional usage, and so on of both words and phrases are all the proper domain of a dictionray, not an encyclopedia. More general sociological articles like U.S. military slang terms would be okay of course, but ones like this really don't belong in an encyclopedia. --Delirium 00:43, Aug 22, 2003 (UTC)
    • Many of these terms aren't US-specific. Martin 09:24, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
    • I'm with Delirium here: The meaning of phrases and proverbs, and in what (geographical or cultural) environment they are use is dictionary information, not encyclopedic information. Andre Engels 15:04, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

For crying out loud, this page had got to be deleted. It's basically the most offensive web site that exists on wikipedia. I've learnt that two schools have banned wikipedia because kids have found this definition and emailed it acroos the entire scool mailing list.

[edit] From VfD, December 2003

  • More slang: HUA_quotient, Cluster_fuck, Shit_sandwich, and Shit_on_a_shingle. Is this really supposed to be in an encyclopedia? Dictionary seems more appropriate. Mrdice 18:09, 2003 Dec 13 (UTC)
    • "Shit sandwich" was discussed here and decided to be kept a few months ago. That one I still advocate keeping. I have no objection to the other ones, some of which have articles more than a simple definition. -- Infrogmation 05:03, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
    • wiktionary: --Menchi (Talk)â 07:48, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
    • Delete. Slang. Maybe move to Wiktionary. Rossami 15:54, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
    • Move to Wikitioinary. These are definitions (only) of slang terms. The standard response I've seen is to move them out - Marshman 17:57, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
      • I'd still keep "Shit sandwich". It's more than a definition, and I suspect if we have no article there, one (maybe not as good) will tend to reappear. Others perhaps move to military slang or some similar slang article and redirect. -- Infrogmation 13:41, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)
      • Keep "shit sandwich", delete the rest. I'm with Infrogmation on the reasons. PMC 05:05, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Offensive remark

If you have a member of staff who requires speaking to (they have done something not to your liking), they are more likely to accept a talking to if you soften them up with a positive comment to start and end with..

For example: "I really am pleased with your progress but can we just watch the silly errors in despatch, otherwise keep up the good work" You have just given this person a Shit Sandwich, two pieces of nice either side of crap!!

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