Talk:Shiny Pokémon

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	Pokémon Portal This article is part of the Pokémon Collaborative Project, which aims to improve the encyclopaedic coverage of the Pokémon universe on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit this article, or visit the project page, where you can join the project, ask for advice, and see what our current focuses are.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the assessment scale.
PCP To-do: edit  Current focuses - Crawdaunt & Pokémon Cleanup - Lucario, Feraligatr, Gardevoir etc. Expand - Emperte, Hayashigame, Ken Sugimori etc. Assess and Prioritize articles (Log)

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Shiny Pokémon article. This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject.
Please sign and date your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~). Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic. New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Ask questions, get answers.	Be polite Assume good faith No personal attacks Be welcoming	Article policies No original research Neutral point of view Verifiability

Contents 1 Proposed Merge 2 Evolution 3 does any1 no how to get the Gs codes for Emerald? 4 Incorrect Name? 5 Incorrect information 6 More Vandilism! 7 Contradictory Statement 8 Breeding 9 Shiny Onix? 10 Merge to Pokémon gameplay article 11 Misinformation?

[edit] Proposed Merge

This article should probably be combined with the Pokemon article, and definately cleaned up. This article reads more like a badly written story than an encyclopedia entry. --Thecosmos 00:14, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

I think it would do better in the Wikibooks Pokemon project than the main Pokemon page, which is already getting crowded. Spriteless 12:37, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

This should not be merged with the main Pokémon article. However, I would support a merge if it was to a relevant article. Sonic Mew | talk to me 16:15, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Don't merge. Forever young 05:29, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Why would this be merged? It should certainly be cleaned up, but there's no reason in should be combined with the main article. Bduddy 05:00, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I believe this article should NOT be merged, it is of its own topic, it should'nt be merged just linked from the "Pokemon" article. Kiptrev 12:15 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I've read this section and I see no reasons why this article should or should not be merged. I think the article should be merged on the grounds that it has no information of value that cannot be stated in a subsection of the normal Pokemon page. The only amount of information that could justify this being a separate page would be if there was a list of what each Pokemon's shiny color was, but that's listed in each individual Pokemon page's wikibox... Clint 09:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, im going to add each pokemon's shiny colour then, if any one objects please state, i will go forward with this proposal on the 28th of April. Kiptrev 17.04 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I Added A list of known Shiny pokemon whic are obtainable, If other users can add any more they find, and try to get rid of all the "{edits}" at the side, that would be grand. Kiptrev 10.26 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Dont merge.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 23:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't merge. --Valepert 14:20, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

The topic of shininess isnt relevant to the entire pokemon franchise. Its just too specific to be merged.

there should be a mention in the gold/silver/crystal/ruby/saphire/emerald pages of their existance though... Adambesthythe 12:32, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

This has tagged for merge for months; should I remove the tag now? smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 21:11, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes the tag should be removed. Sdphost

[edit] Evolution

If a Shiny Pokemon evovles, will the evolved form also be shiny?

No, they don't. At least not in Ruby and Sapphire. - A Link to the Past (talk) 06:25, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

I'm running into you again, huh? I've never obtained a shiny evolvable Pokemon (only a rusty-orangey-brown Sableye), but according to everything I've ever heard on the subject, ALttP is wrong; Shiny Pokemon remain shiny after evolution. --HeroicJay 08:29, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

I just tested it with my 'shiny' shuppet, and it kept its sparkle when fed rare candies.

I can verify that they stay shiny after evolution, with a shiny Ralts (now a Kirlia) in Pokémon Emerald. Likewise, I know from experience that Pokémon stay shiny after evolution in Gold/Silver/Crystal. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 05:28, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, I dunno about you, but my shiny Cascoon didn't evolve into a shiny Dustox. - A Link to the Past (talk) 21:51, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

I just tested it in Ruby with a Zigzagoon evolving into a Linoone. I think you just hit a glitch, ALttP, I dunno what to say. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 00:38, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

ALttP, by what method did you obtain your shiny Cascoon/Wurmple? The reason I ask is because I have seen rare cases (on the GameFAQs boards) of people complaining about a shiny Pokemon they obtained in a trade of some kind not maintaining its shininess past evolution. Indeed, some people complained of traded shiny Pokemon losing their shininess upon being traded to one of the Gamecube games. It's really odd that it happens, but I guess it's one of the drawbacks to the method by which Nintendo decided to handle shininess for the Advanced Generation games. :( I have taken to not trading my shinies to anything, in the hopes that the new games will use a method other than trading for transfer so I can move them over to the DS version games when they come out.  :) --Undrhil 06:44, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

my purple spheal evolved eirliar on my ruby, got a shiny sphealo now, no they dont lose shine: on silver tested with blue nidoran male, shine is still there. Adambesthythe 19:06, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I don’t think they were talking about Gold/Silver/Crystal. Try trading your shiny Sealeo to another Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald game pak, and then evolve it into Walrein. It might lose its shininess and become a normal blue Walrein. Could you please test this for us? -- WikidSmaht (talk) 19:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

can do, will update laterAdambesthythe 10:46, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

traded it to saphire, evolved it, stil shiny.... whats that guy on about? Adambesthythe 11:46, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I hope the glitch isn't in D&P. I don't want my shiny Rhydon to lose its shiny colour when I evolve it into Dosaidon. -- ~PinkDeoxys~ 23:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

there is no glitch....... the only time ive heard of shiny pokemon losing their shine is when its been uploaded to pokemon collesuem/XD. and thats been disporven (my walrien came back purple from ciollesuem and ive seen a vid on youtube on xd with a shiny kyogre). so i higly doubt your rhydon will lose its shine. nintendo are cool like that. Adambesthythe 19:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, my brother found a golden Pidgey RIGHT when he started the game! I mean right above Pallet Town, he found a golden Pidgey! He evolved it all the way to Pidgeot, still shiny. You would think Poke'mon stay shiny after evolution, I mean they have pictures of Shiny Stage 2 Poke'mon which can't be caught in the wild. 24.9.121.137 23:47, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] does any1 no how to get the Gs codes for Emerald?

i dont no the codes and NEED them, i have all pokemon and i was told theres a way to make them shiny... or catch them again that way...

• Check another site, like: http://www.gameshark.com/ or http://www.pokemon.cheatcode.org/ . And while they may be cool, noone needs Pokemon.Spriteless

you cant make a normal pokemon shiny, but you can cath them randomly in the wild - using a cheat cart to find them screws up your chances of finding them, so find them without it Adambesthythe 16:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect Name?

Unless someone can correct me via Gold/Silver/Crystal, "Shiny" is an unofficial fanname that came from "Shining" Pokémon of the Neo Destiny TCG set. I didn't know the TCG held precendence over the games, but my point is that the only real name we have is "ALT. COLOR" Pokémon, via the catchphrases and surveys in the game, which lets you pick terms for your catchphrase. There's no "SHINY" under S, but there is "ALT. COLOR" under A, leading me to believe that if there ever was an officially sanctioned term, Alt. Color Pokémon would be it.

I prefer Shiny/Shining/Pokémon [Star] myself, but then I suppose it'd be called Arremmdeepedia if this place went as I liked it. Redirect Shiny Pokémon to Alt. Color Pokémon? --67.68.9.33 00:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Just to lend some credentials to this, that was me. Whoops. --ArrEmmDee 00:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

theyve had the name shiny pokemon due to in gold/silver/crystal when they came out they hade the ring of stars then there cry and in ruby saphire there was a twinkle and a loop of stars after the cry - shiny is just a nickname theyve just picked up. and besides , nintendo act like they dont exist (with the exception of red gyarados). so hey, no need for them the be called coloured now Adambesthythe 16:10, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

just noticed, on my phrases on ruby theres now ALT.COLOUR. is this due to my ownership of my purple walrein? Adambesthythe 16:10, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

and just to say, there still shiny! the names too big now! Adambesthythe 19:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect information

This article states that "The game's shining Caterpie line consists of a pinkish Caterpie, an orange Metapod, and a pink Butterfree". This is incorrect. When people are debating that the pink Butterfree was shiny, they are indeed incorrect: According to Psypoke's Picdex, a shiny Caterpie is a golden color, a shiny Metapod is almost reddish, and a shiny Butterfree has green eyes and reddish wings. 68.54.144.201

Depends if which game you're looking at. For example, gold Caterpie, reddish Metapod, and a pink Butterfree are all correct in Pokémon Stadium/Stadium 2/Colosseum/XD, so that the Shiny/Alt. Color Butterfree very well may have been 'shiny'. --ArrEmmDee 22:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I got some work done. 201.37.22.37 03:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More Vandilism!

Someone keeps vandilising all the Pokemon articles, including this one. I don't know how to revert, but whoever does, can you please revert the article? ShadowUltra 19:29, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contradictory Statement

"which was used so that one could tell a Pokémon was shiny even if playing on a monochrome Game Boy." this contradicts the beginning of the article where it stated that shiny pokemon only appeared in the gold/silver games and prior. Also because these games were unplayable in regular monochrome GameBoys. 89.152.8.125 00:51, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Gold and Silver were playable on a monochrome GameBoy. Many of the early GBC games were designed this way. Crystal did require a GBC, though. 207.246.186.160 23:25, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Breeding

Is a shiny pokemon more likely to breed shiny pokemon than normal pokemon are to breed shines?

no, pokemon eggs have the same likelyhood to hatch into a shiny pokemon as a wild one, even if their parent were both shiny. endo story.Adambesthythe 19:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

• Actually it was different in GSC. If you bred say a shiny Ditto with a shiny Gyarados, the chances of getting a shiny Magikarp were slightly higher than finding one in the wild. However, due to the shiny attribute being changed in the Advance games, such is no longer the case.

[edit] Shiny Onix?

I remember a while back, there was an episode in which the gang finds a Glass Onix methinks. Could that be considered Shiny or at least worth mention in this article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.88.214.192 (talk) 05:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

It's, in comparison to the games, not shining. It's just a special Onix, or something.—ウルタプ 08:08, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge to Pokémon gameplay article

Really, this is mostly just an article about Shiny Pokémon in the video games. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree--$UIT 03:08, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Misinformation?

From the article:

"The term "shiny" is not explicitly stated in the metal generation games, and it is in fact a term invented by the Pokémon fan community due to the flash of stars appearing as the Pokémon enters a battle, (...)"

I'm almost certain shiny Pokémon were identified as "Shiny" in Pokémon Stadium 2 in the computer's list, which would be quite explicit.190.39.83.137 06:12, 26 March 2007 (UTC)