Talk:Shia population

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Can someone please tell me where this data comes from? —Khoikhoi 23:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

This data comes from various official and non-government sources. Maybe with a 2-3% margin of error—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.166.226.115 (talkcontribs) .

I dont think that thre are too many Shiites in Sunni majority countries like Algeria - (actually, in Bengal, the Shias are fairly concentrated in Dhaka and Chittagong. Ashura is remembered with fervor).

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[edit] Shias in Africa

There are a lot of Fatimid influenced Berbers in North Africa, including Tunisia and Algeria. The only place where the Shia minority is persecuted is Libya, strangely enough, since Qaddafi is all for Pan-Arabism. Even in Morocco, I have seen Shia rituals first hand.

[edit] Merge

The information in this page is duplicated at Demographics of Islam. There is no need for two separate pages. -- zzuuzz (talk) 16:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

It is, since it would not show up on a google search. Thanks, Muhammad—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.166.226.84 (talkcontribs) .

Are you suggesting separate articles for Sunni Muslim and other branches so that they can show in the search engine? Or are you suggesting that Sunni Muslim be listed at Shi'a population? It would help if you could explain where you are coming from rather massively rewriting existing articles without discussion. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:33, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

The demographics page, gives a break-down of Shia and Sunni, while "Shia population" is simply a listing of global Shia population. A lot of people searching for this information would not look under "Demographics of Islam". I have cross referenced this page on the demographics one, as you suggested. Thanks, Muhammad.

[edit] How much bad information does this page contain?

I stumbled on this page when researching an answer for the reference desk. I see that the figures are strikingly discrepant from those at Demographics of Islam. For example the U.S. State Department says Shi'a population of Saudi Arabia is maybe 7%. This article says 20%, whereas Demographics of Islam says 5%. From this evidence, it starts to seem that this page should simply be deleted, since it has no new information, plus egregious errors of fact not present in the other article. Wareh 01:40, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Looking closer, I see that this edit reduced the Saudi figure from 10% to 3%, referencing a talk discussion. Later, User:Szahidr diff added a statement of 20% and chart figures for 15% (already suspiciously large based on the State Dept. number). Third came what, I'm sorry, despite WP:AGF I'll say look like fraudulent inflations by User:71.167.95.91, which have since elicited the modest (but apparently correct for Saudi Arabia) complaint here (=current version as I write). Wareh 01:55, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I've reverted to the last page version that looked plausible to me. I realize it's possible some real facts were lost this way, but I'm confident some fake facts were removed. The right thing to do is to hammer out verifiable reliable sources on this talk page. Wareh 02:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
This article, like Demographics of Islam, has lots of made-up numbers. It's a pov fork. -- zzuuzz (talk) 02:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Updates

Can someone decide on the breakdown of the table (alphabetical or percent of population), and also Serbia and Montenegro are not the same state anymore can anyone update the percentage of the respectiv e populations?

[edit] Protection

This page appear sto have been subject to sustained small changes which might either be perfectly justified (but sh/would require references) or are (in all likelihood) POV induced vandalism. I have therefore protect the page against anonymous editing and hope that new changes will be made only with using references. WRyt the actual numbers - I have no clue which numbers are correct and have simply reverted bakc to the last edit before Anonymous struck. Refdoc 20:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Refdoc: You may refer to Demographics of Islam, and Adherents.com, as well as the Encyclopedia Britannica. Hope that helps. FYI , the Demographics link also allows you to sort by various categories... I think that neat -- Muhammed.

Muhammad, this is not my job, but yours. I have stopped what at best is unreferenced editing and at worst vandalism. If you think you have changes to make do following a) get yourself a user name (i.e. register) and b) reference and discuss your edits on here. Refdoc 09:52, 6 February 2007 (UTC)