Talk:Sheet bend

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[edit] Weaver's knot

The Weaver's knot is a different way to tie this map and perhaps it should either be listed here or linked. - Texnofobix 02:51, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

The Ashley Book of Knots is rather unclear on this definition. The wording of ABoK #1418 does suggest that the "Weaver's Knot" refers uniquely to a sheet bend tied using the "bowline bunny method". However, on the same page he then states that
"Weaver's Knots are bends that are designed to be permanently tied in small material. There are four pages of Weaver's Knots near the end of Chapter 2"
Thus I think the sentence about Weaver's Knots in this article is rather misleading, and does not add much useful information. Perhaps instead we could write something like:
"The sheet bend can also be tied by the same procedure as the "bunny method" used to tie a bowline. Tied in this way, Ashley lists the sheet bend as a type of "weaver's knot" (#1418), suitable for joining threads that have parted in the loom.
Mtford 20:38, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Ashley uses the relation of "Sheet Bend" (ABoK #1) and *the* (not *a*) "Weaver's Knot" (ABoK #2) for explaining why he may choose to use different names for knots of the same structure.
A different way either of tying or applying a form generally constitutes a second knot. (ABoK re. knots #1 and #2)
--Netizen 14:01, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Right, but unfortunately his usage of the term is not consistent. Look at the four-page section on "Weavers" in the Occupational Knots chapter (pages 78-81). Mtford 07:20, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images

(moved from my talk page):

I respect your advice about high resolution images. I thank you and will learn to upload larger versions. I grew up when the Internet was so slow that large images were to be avoided if possible. Old habits die hard.

However, I don't think we should display an image where both ends of the large rope are lost to view. The whole point is to emphasize the importance of passing the line first round the short end of the larger rope. I have larger images and will insert a replacement if you approve.

Best wishes, Grog (Alan W. Grogono)

Wikipedia Name: Grogono

  • Don't worry—Wikipedia automatically scales down the image to an appropriate thumbnail, while also allowing the original to be retrieved for a closer look or for printing. How big are your images? If they're of comparable resolution then I have no problem with you replacing mine. If not, then it's easy for me to take a new picture—I think you're right that it's better to show both ends of the larger rope. (PS. you should sign your posts with ~~~~ to datestamp them and automatically link your username.) — brighterorange (talk) 21:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I just noticed you've uploaded a bunch of images to the various knot pages in addition to this one. This is great, and thanks for being generous about licensing your photographs to everyone. May I make a few suggestions? First, it'd be best if you can upload the highest resolution image you have and then use the "thumb" image style so that it's automatically shrunk down (see what I did on sheet bend for instance). This also gives you a place to put a caption, so that you don't need to put the text into the image itself. (I'd also recommend against putting the text into the image—it makes it harder for people to reuse the image in other contexts, and is kind of non-standard style on Wikipedia, so it looks a bit odd.) Finally, I recommend uploading to the wikimedia commons instead of wikipedia directly. If you do this, then your images can be used on all of the different language wikipedias. The syntax for including images uploaded on the commons is the same as here. (By the way, I think your images are quite nice, so if we can get high-res versions of them without too much compression artifacts, they will be a real asset to the project. Thanks!) — brighterorange (talk) 21:38, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Related to square/granny/thief knot?

The first sentence of this article states that the sheet bend is related to the square knot, granny knot, thief knot and bowline. I know it has the same structure as a bowline (with a different load configuration), but how is it related to the first three? Mtford 14:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd say it's a mistake. This statement is already in the first revision of the article created by anonymous. --Netizen 17:24, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
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