User talk:Shane.amadan

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Shane, I noticed you are creating a bunch of pages for ultimate teams. I would caution you that club teams are generally not notable enough to merit articles under wikipedia's notability guidelines. I suppose WP:BIO would be most applicable. Sorry. Oops, forgot my manners... Welcome!

Hello, Shane.amadan, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Shane, I'd appreciate it if you would explain why you think Eugene DarkStar is notable. I will nominate it for deletion at WP:AFD if you can't justify it's notability here or at Talk:Eugene DarkStar by tomorrow. Thanks. Feel free to ask me if you need help finding or deciphering the relevant policy. But again, I really don't think club teams merit inclusion in wikipedia. --Kchase02 (T) 09:37, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the note-- I really am only starting one page (DarkStar) but checking others for help on the code, hence the save signatures :-/ I'm also consolidating existing pages into the category "Ultimate teams" and updating links on the page of the same name. Within the next month, with the help of a few Ultimate historians and current players I hope to update the pages on all the major elite teams (esp. Boston, Santa Barbara, Boulder, Seattle, Vancouver, San Francisco, Atlanta, North Carolina). I'm not sure why elite-level Ultimate teams merit deletion over minor indoor soccer clubs such as the Sacramento Knights.
Got your msg. Thanks for responding. I'll address the issue tomorrow. I'd say if Sacramento Knights isn't notable, you should take the page to WP:AFD. --Kchase02 (T) 09:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
btw, I reverted some of the linking you did at various pages such as Ultimate teams. Don't worry about it. I'll revert back to the replace the links you added tomorrow when we resolve notability. --Kchase02 (T) 09:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Heh-- I think we keep typing around each other. Kchase, DarkStar (with several other teams, notably the Santa Barbara Condors) was repsonsible for a very dramatic change in the sport and culture of Ultimate.
The legacy of DarkStar, rather than its current state (no participation at Nationals in 10 years) is what merits its incluson, and I hope tonight and tomorrow I'll have a chance to express that.
All right, back to writing. Shane.amadan 09:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
You are engaging me and I appreciate that. Usually on new page patrol I get people creating vanity pages for their kids' middle school soccer teams and stuff. So my vanity detector has fairly low tolerance right now. Sorry about that. Anyway, we'll figure this out in the next week or so. I'll do what I can to help you navigate WP's maze of policies to make sure nobody else tries to delete these pages. Anyway, I need sleep! 'night.--Kchase02 (T) 09:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
First of all, great job on the Eugene DarkStar article! Based on the page, you have a pretty good argument about notability, so I'll leave that alone. I did want to give you a couple of quick tips, though. First, you might consider moving the page as outlined in Help:Moving a page. I suggest moving b/c "Dark Star" seems to be two words. Moving a page will create a redirect at the old name, so don't worry about fixing the links. Second, there are a lot of us on new page patrol, checking the new pages to see if they meet wikipedia's many requirements. While we are well-intentioned, we sometimes flag things we shouldn't. You can often avoid us if you create an article in sandbox first and then move it into the main article space when you're done. If you have any questions about how to do something, feel free to ask. I like assisting new editors.--Kchase02 (T) 20:29, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
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