Talk:Shaheed Bhai Mani Singh

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Bhai Mani Singh Shaheed was born in early sixth decade of 1600, (~1660-1665) according to one version and in 1644 AD according to another version. He died in November/December 1737 according to one version and June 15, 1734 AD according to another version.

Bhai Mani Singh was indeed a great and illlustrious personality in Sikh history.

Bhai Kesar Singh Chhibber was a Brahman and the son of Gurbaksh Singh, a Daroga of Harimandir Sahib. His had been a dedicated Sikh family of scholars/dedicated men in the service of Gurughar for several generations starting from Bhai Praga's ji. Bhai Mati Das Chibber and Bhai Sati Das Chibber, who were martyred at Chandni Chowk Delhi along with ninth Guruji, belonged to this illustrious Brahman Sikh family. According to Bhai Kesar Singh Chibber's own evidence, he (Bhai Kesar Singh Chibber) was born in 1699 AD and thus enjoyed the company of Bhai Mani Singh Shaheed at Amritsar till his death (1737 AD). Bhai Chhibber proclaims loudly and with the beat of drum that Bhai Mani Singh Shaheed was of Kamboh/Kamboj lineage. It is also noteable that Bhai Kesar Singh was 38 years old when Bhai Mani Singh was executed in 1737 AD. Thus, Kesar Singh Chibber was very much a CONTEMPORARY of Bhai Mani Singh Shaheed. Moreover, Chibber lived in Amritsar where Bhai Mani Singh also lived and acted as Granthi of Harimandir as well as the compiler of Adi Granth and Dasam Granth. Bhai Kesar Singh Chibber is thus supposed to have been very much knowledgeable and familiar with Bhai Mnai Singh's family particulars.

The readers are encouraged to contribute their views on this topic in this discussion forum.

Let us hear also from those who are keen to identify Bhai Mani Singh Shaheed either with the great grand father of Giani Gian Singh Dullat or else with Bhai Mani Ram Rajput from Alipore/Multan now in Pakistan.

Let it be clearly stated at the outset here that Giani Gian Singh (A Dullat Jat by caste himself---born in 1822---death in 1921)) claims Bhai Mani Singh Shaheed was a Dullat Jat. On the other hand, Giani Garja Singh Punwar/Vanjara Rajput(of Mehra Shimpa or Vanjara/Rajput by caste, who was born in the start of 20th century) has tried to put his claim that Bhai Mnai Singh Shaheed belonged to his Vanjara Rajput caste.

It is not the fault of these Gianis ji. The personality of Bhai Mani Singh Shaheed is so glorious and illustrious that every body wants to associate himself with Bhai Sahib Ji and claim him as from his own lineage".

"This is indeed a great tragedy of Sikhism that the caste of great Sikh personality is being projected here, but both Giani Gian Singh ji and Giani Garja Singh ji must be blamed for this deplorable scenario.

Well, let the knowledgeable readers contribute on this topic in a detached manner, starting from the very fundamentals and let's verify who among these latter claimants is telling truth and who is telling the lies here.

KLS