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A picture of the "like a newspaper" inner part of the gatefold might be nice?

Contents 1 The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu 2 Sleevenotes 3 Question toward GA 3.1 GA passed

[edit] The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu

I'm wondering if it would be better to bill this as an album by The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu in the infobox and intro, with a note in the text that side LP 2 was credited to The KLF? Discuss. :) --kingboyk 17:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Probably an excellent idea - all versions and variations of this album contain mainly JAMs material. And after all, The KLF's contributions are remixes of "other artist's" work. I was feeling that the intro was unwieldy.

I'm also not convinced that the Towards Trance stuff is sufficiently relevant. In the case for its inclusion, it indicates that Drummond and Cauty were embarking upon a new path; but on the other hand, it can be seen as another of their ideas that didn't reach fruition. What do you reckon? --Vinoir 18:35, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Hadn't thought about it until you mentioned it but yes. "Indeed, there were originally two separate compilations planned: Shag Times and Towards Trance[1]; it is likely that The KLF's contributions to Shag Times were originally intended to form the Towards Trance album[2]." could be snipped in its entirety. I think beyond dedicated fans it might be a case of "who cares?". We'd leave the other stuff; we certainly do want to point out that (basically) "here is born The KLF". --kingboyk 18:41, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Zapping those lines would also mean saying farewell to the KLF FAQ as a source, which is a good thing. Wonderful resource, yes, valid encyclopedic resource - not really. --kingboyk 18:44, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Excellent! That's much better I reckon, a more suitably-sized article for this album. Good work. --Vinoir 20:55, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sleevenotes

(notes to self for formatting and inclusion later, from JAMS CD3:) All songs written by The Jams except Whitney (Jams, Rubican, Merrill, Isaac Hayes, Andrews, Burton, Westwood, Schifrin), Downtown (Jams/T. Hatch); Candyman (Jams/Hendrix/Wagner); Burn the Bastards (S. Stewart ???); Doctorin' (Jams/Chinn/Chapman/R Grainer/Glitter/M Leander). Production: JAMs. Engineer: Ian Richardson. Programmer: Nick Coler. Guest DJ: Cesare.

Burn The Bastards (The JAMS side, KLF 2): Dec 87. --kingboyk 08:55, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question toward GA

• Just a few questions ... there was no production, remixing or so done during that album's compilation. There was no studio time either.
• Where did the compilation take place, where did the assembling was done.

Just answer beside each bullet point and if needed add material to the article, if not, it qualifies as GA and will be given GA once these questions are answered. Lincher 13:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

• Side one (The JAMs) is old material. Side two (The KLF) is old songs newly remixed. Unfortunately, published sources are extremely sparse on this album. I'm fortunate to have an original CD which I picked up on eBay, and the sleevenotes - aren't very detailed either. See next point:
• Published sources don't answer that first q as far as I know, although we generally locate all KLF activities at Trancentral :) The sleevenotes say the new remixes are (p)(c) 1988, and give some personnel data but no venues. One could speculate from the personnel involved that they used the same studio in Dagenham that some other works were recorded at, but that would be mere speculation indeed.

In short, the only info missing that I have available is the name of the engineer, the programmer, and the year of the remixes. Will add this shortly. Please place on hold in the meantime. Thank you! --kingboyk 13:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA passed

1. Well written? Pass

2. Factually accurate? Pass

3. Broad in coverage? Pass

4. Neutral point of view? Pass

5. Article stability? Pass

6. Images? Pass

Thanks for having taken the time to answer the questions and to have added some information to the article. It is truly nice to see such articles being succinct, well-written and broad. Lincher 16:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! Much appreciated. --kingboyk 16:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)