Talk:Shadowrun (2007 video game)
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[edit] Article name
This should probably be renamed, as it has now been confirmed at E3 that it will be on Windows as well. --Phorteetoo 20:29, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- How about Shadowrun (2007 video game)? I'm going out on a limb and saying 2007. Thunderbrand 03:12, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, that should work. Far as I know, early 2007 is the planned Vista launch, so that'd be a pretty good guess. --Phorteetoo 04:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- I am agreeing with 2007 as well - it is coming out for Vista as well, and Vista is 2007. I'd like to say Q3 or Q4 2007, but I am not putting my eggs into that basket.--Phae 08:07, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] More Information!
As this is ongoing, I feel it is about high time to update this article with more information pertaining to this upcoming game. I took the liberties of adding in the official Shadowrun site to the links, as well as changing the platforms to mention that Shadowrun is a Vista game. If you have any questions, my talk page is open! --Phae 23:44, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the Vista fix. My first impression was that it was just Windows in general, didn't realize it was going to be Vista only. Kind of a strange move; I guess they must be doing something shiny with it that will require the capabilities of Vista. --Phorteetoo 04:22, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- It's no problem! It's Vista only as it will be a part of Microsoft's big push for PC gaming, and it will take advantage of DirectX 10. Halo 3 will also have a PC counterpart with Vista requirements. I'm working on updating this article with a LOT of information on the Xbox 360 Shadowrun game, however it is currently VERY difficult to do as there is SEVERE backlash going on as the game is a flat out team based FPS with a Shadowrun tag on it. Lot of tripe to wade through to get to the facts. If you see anything, feel free to add it into the wiki page and i'll help you edit it, or I am sure soon that other Shadowrunners will pop out to help get this page in order. --Phae 07:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, I added in a small thing. There are pictures of ingame floating around the WWW I am sure, just hunting them down and getting them in is the difficult part. It is becoming very hard to maintain a NPOV (I am a Shadowrun fan), but I am trying my hardest. If it seems I am slamming this game at any point, please yell at me in my talk page, and edit whatever I said out.--Phae 08:06, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
I think Microsoft's intent here is to create a Dystopia clone, and bait in the MechWarrior fans with the lure of the Fasa tag. I have yet to see any evidence of more than a nominal connection to the series at all. This really seems to be their MO for licensed games, and it's yet another reason to support my conviction that they are simply evil. Fdgfds 04:50, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dev Edits
Hey there guys and gals. I'm the lead program manager for the FASA game. I've popped my head in to add whatever information I can and correct any factual errors. I did a minor edit to the page a few days ago with a few additions / corrections. I hope this can be a page for facts only; www.shadowrun.com is a great place to discuss subjective stuff. --justdana
- this game is gonna suck baals and its all ur fawlut--65.102.136.42 01:21, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
- Good then maybe you can explain why game designers today seem to go out of their way to make the exact opposite of what their customers want.
Hello Fasa employee. No offense but I feel your post asking to discuss subjective stuff on www.shadowrun.com is directly in hopes of avoiding the controversy and facts pointed out about the differences between shadowrun and shadowrun fps. I think the most informative and factual approach would be to list on the page the differences between shadowrun and shadowrun fps, because while they share the same name, there are a lot of things the design and story team have taken liberty with. For instance not including shadowrunning, the namesake of the game. Decking, rigging, magic system, breaking canon, new race abilities, new timeline for SR named games, and a plethora of other things. It is perfectly valid that while owning the name to one thing, to recreate or cut major aspects of the original and not receive any mention or notation would be a diservice to a factual shadowrun FPS page.
Also please note that there are lots of other websites with controversy sections that go into great detail and imo the controversy section needs to be heavily expanded.
[edit] Actual controversy or vindictive fans?
The only reason there's a huge "controversey" section in the first place is only due to the neurotic obsessive problems that certain people have and their fanaticism over a pen and paper game. Want proof? How about the fact that 3/4ths of this wikipedia page is nitpicking that has next to NOTHING to do with the actual game, as in no information that a regular person who wants to know about the game needs to see. I played plenty of Shadowrun back in my high school days too but I have a normal persons perspective and know that a game should be judged on it's own merits not condemned just because two numbers in the year that the game takes place got changed.
I'm not saying there shouldn't be mention at all that the setting is slightly changed from the PnP game, but what in the world is the use of sticking the phrase "although it leaves out many staples and core aspects of Shadowrun PnP while using the name." in it's description? Should we go around to every single X-Men game or World War 2 game and write up big lists of battles that weren't put into Call of Duty or backstory and characters they left out of the x-men arcade game?
No ones arguing about whether this information is factual or not, I'm arguing that it's not at all relevant to the game or a person (Ex: me) who's looking for information on the game.
So if you want to vent about the horrors of all the terrible little things keep it off the article and keep it on the talk page and the forums.
Bottom line: This is not a simulation of the PnP game. It's a game based on it.
IntelSebastian 21:08, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I streamlined much of the controversy. I removed most of the "Shadowrun doesn't include..." since no game, movie or book can ever include every single feature of the universe it's from. I also moved the footnote about the "Loosely based" to the existing game description. It was redundant to have the statement in both the controversy and the description.
The change in date and should be inferrable from the game's description "The game takes place in Brazil, year 2031".
The setting is on planet earth. Just because most shadowrun games take place in Seattle for instance, doesn't mean all have to.
Same with the Racial Traits. The specifics of the racial traits are already in the gameplay description. No reason to repeat them in the controversy.
Removed orcs (See "not listing things not included.")
Removed history of controversy. It's irrelevant, since all that matters is the current state of the game.
I would argue that Shadowruns still exist in the game, however, I think that point could use some discussion before a decision on its pertinence is made.
I also attempted to make it a controversy, not a list of complaints. Even a controversy implies a neutral tone, the previous iteration, was not in my opinion neutral. Im.thatoneguy
