Talk:Shabak people

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why is it allowed for the exiled assyrian community in the united states to disort the reality on the ground by seperating our kurdish nation into zazaki, yezidi etc
i can not tolerate this and the sources , aina and christians of iraq have an anti kurdish attitude and try to seperate our people according to religious differences
both yezidis and shabak are kurds and belong to the kurdish nation and they have fought alongside their kurdish brothers
the assyrians pay people from the yezidi and shabak community to say that they are non kurds , but these are individuals , yezidis and shabak serve in the peshmerga forces , have contributed a lot to our culture and wish to be part of the kurdish region
it may be true , that shabak are a mixture of kurdish and turkmen tribes and can be either seen as a distinct ethnic group , kurdish or turcoman , but in all they are more of a tribe or better confederation of tribes , you can find this kind of mixed kurdish and turkish tribes in turkey too, but in general, they consider themself to be kurd
this is a well known fact all over the region .
please , stop disorting the reality portraying tensions between kurds and shabak, shabaks are kurds and only because the majority of kurds in iraq happens to be sunni, it does not mean that other groups within the kurds like yezidis, faillis,shabak or kurdish christians are something else it is untolerable to reduce our identy to sunni islam and one or two dialects
we are really a heterogen nation with differents dialects sometimes considered to be different languages and different believes but we have a common sense of belonging to eachother and again,
i know some assyrian wish to establish their state in the niveah plains and try to protray the kurds living there , mostly shabak or yezidis as a differnt group
but it does not mean, that is the truth. They are kurds —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.136.108.71 (talk • contribs).

I have lived a good amount of my years in the Nineveh plains and I did not met one Shabak claiming to be Kurdish. However, you are right about Yezidis (even thou some within their communities delcine their Kurdish edentity.) Chaldean 02:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

i provided links in which it is stated that shabak wre originally of kizilbash tribes wo have settled in kurdistan or northern iraq and mixed with kurds
why are they deleted
so what , i have seen shabak who claim to be kurdish
poersonal encounters are always not good
the fact remains , that they are generally considered as kurdish —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.136.104.153 (talk • contribs) 18:07, 25 November 2006.