Talk:Shōnen-ai

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A previous version of this page stated that the English term "BoyLove" had displaced 'shonen-ai' in Japan. This is untrue; "boylove" is a (probably mostly English) euphemism for what the Japanese would call shotacon.

Serves me right for not doing better research. I put in the new paragraphs about "Boys Love" et al., mostly taken from the Japanese Wikipedia. 'Scuse while I clean the egg off my face. --Aponar Kestrel 19:09, 2004 Jul 29 (UTC)

The SAMPA pronunciation was also removed, being probably unnecessary. --Aponar Kestrel 00:02, 2004 Jul 29 (UTC)

"the relationships depicted are between boys, ... and are often completely psychologically impossible" This sounds a bit POV to me. Do you want to clarify?--Asbestos 2004 Oct 24

I assume someone will revert the edit an anonymous user did, but it's obvious what they intended. Gravitation is the only one of the listed series that is actually considered BL, I believe. And instead of listing "series that include shōnen-ai elements of various degrees" I think it might be better to list well-known actual BL series? --Galaxiaad 7 July 2005 04:11 (UTC)

I must agree with Asbestos about the rather ambiguous comment referring to the "unrealistic dynamics" and "psychological impossibility" of shounen-ai. There is very little explaination offered, and one is left wondering exactly what the implications of such a statement may be...

i love shonen-ai its always so cool_ animelover

[edit] Cleanup

Did some general cleanup and made things look a little neater. Hopefully the government of Liechtenstein will be pleased. Wilybadger 02:45, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pedophilia

Does Shōnen-ai really carry connotations of pedophilia? I know the word currently means "pederasty" in Japanese, but that's a slightly different thing... 惑乱 分からん 16:40, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The impression that BL/Shounen-ai often involve pre-pubescent boys

The article keeps making mention of "young boys", even going as far as mentioning age ranges ("as far down as ten"). However, Shounen Ai most often deals with boys and men who are teenagers and older. In fact, Shounen ai rarely deal with boys who aren't yet teenagers.

For an actual term for depictions of homosexual relationships between pre-pubescent boys: Shotacon (often abbreviated as Shota). Though the Shotacon genre is almost exclusively X-rated in content, the term itself describes homosexual relationships involving at least one boy who's not yet a teenager.

Unless people object, I'm gonna edit the article heavily.

(FallenAngelII)

I understood that shonen-ai is teens-college age young men (say maybe 16-22) and they're usually past puberty. Go ahead and hack away, FallenAngelII. These things need to be clarified. Shotacon and shounen-ai are not one and the same, just as lolicon and shoujo-ai aren't. Jaguara 03:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I just edited this article heavily. It lost about 33% of its text. Every single mention of "young boy" or "ages whatever to" was deleted as was some random babble about most viewers or readers probably initially coming in contact with shounen-ai when being introduced to it by friends. (FallenAngelII)