Talk:Sgt. Petsound's Lonely Hearts Club Band

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[edit] Notability

I don't know what the concern "reason" means, but this has been getting a lot of attention on the internet. Read the post on one of the most popular Blogs : Boing Boing [1]

I believe the "multi-million-dollar lawsuit" makes this notable. JohnRussell 02:56, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

What multi-million dollar lawsuit? Nobody involved has any money. It's just a cease-and-desist. The sory's a big thing this week. Lots of things are big for a few days. No way to know if anyone will care at all in a month when the next thing comes along. Fan-1967 02:58, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

What about a mention in mashup after : "DJ Danger Mouse's critically acclaimed remix project The Grey Album effectively launched a new bastard pop subgenre: the bootleg album. While The Beatles had made appearances on bootleg tracks prior to this album (for instance PPM's "A Life In The Day" and JPL's "Let It Be Missy Elliott (Beatlesmix)"), The Grey Album distinguished itself by being made up entirely of samples from The Beatles' White Album and vocals from Jay-Z's smash hit The Black Album. The project received considerable attention following EMI's legal threats towards distributors of the album." JohnRussell 14:31, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


Doing a google search for "beachles" returns and it returned "65,300 for 'beachles'" I just flipped through the first 10 pages or so and they are relevant hits (refering to this mashup)

also. "There are a lot of bands, singers and other musicians and musical ensembles with articles in the Wikipedia (see Category:Musicians).

A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, hip hop crew, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:"

. . . "Has been featured in multiple non-trivial published works in reliable and reputable media (excludes things like school newspapers, personal blogs, etc...)." . . .

Some of these hits are non-trivial website sites (such has BoingBoing)

JohnRussell 15:10, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

  • BoingBoing is a blog site. All the hits I've seen are from blogs and forums, which are always full of things that happened this week, and then they move on to other things. This is about as ephemeral as they come. Fan-1967 22:24, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Someone else added some notability information from USA Today and Entertainment Weekly. I had heard about the Entertainment Weekly reference from http://claytoncounts.com/blog/the-beachles/ "And they want me to give up people’s IPs. That much I can tell you because of some legal humfuddery I dreamt up, but also (and more importantly) because I have a conscience. After all, would any of you want to be sued for following a link from Entertainment Weekly ?"

Also, even though blogs move on to other things, so do newspapers and other media and that many google hits seems notable to me.JohnRussell 01:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I found the USA today reference. It's five words. It's not a "favorable mention", just a mention. I can't find a reference in Entertainment Weekly at all. Blogs talking about blogs is not notable. These flash-in-the-pan things come and go so quickly. As far as the external links to blogs, those are pretty much frowned on in Wikipedia, as they are not Reliable Sources, just random people posting their opinions. Fan-1967 02:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

From Entertainment Weekly: "Meet the Beachles - Now that we're marking the 40th anniversary of the Beach Boys' landmark album Pet Sounds, it was probably inevitable that someone would mash-up the 1966 disc with its most noteworthy response, the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Clayton Counts has taken on the task, cross-breeding the songs track by track in order, and he's posted the resulting epic of Danger Mousery, Sgt. Petsounds, at his blog. It's not really a straight mash-up, as Counts doesn't really try to align the clashing rhythms or keys. The result has an abstract, free-jazz quality that's both illuminating (in the way it honors the sonic experimentation of the originals) and headache-inducing. Anyway, it's worth a listen." Sounds favorable to me. And the USA Today citation you referenced is from their website, not the publication, which did, as I recall, favorably mention it. Sounds like someone's just being petty.