User talk:Sgrayban/Archive2

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Contents 1 malta 2 Block of User:Adam Carr 3 Personal attacks against Adam Carr 4 Cuba

[edit] malta

you reverted an edit i made about malta being the most bombed place on earth. unless the nature of this claim is elaborated then it is false since interpretation of "most bombed" can very the germans put less then 10000 tons on the island, many other countries received more than this in that war. -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.124.30.55 (talk • contribs).

Your mistaken unsigned/anon user. The history of Malta doesn't even show a rollback/rv of me at all. Never even been to the page nor do I really care. --Scott Grayban 02:39, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Block of User:Adam Carr

I have blocked him for three hours for personal attacks against you and other users on Talk:Cuba. However, I am also asking you to keep your cool and, if he still continues to attack you, you must also keep calm and respond approprately. Thank you. Kilo-Lima|^(talk) 13:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Its very hard to be nice to him when he gets mad and starts name calling. He really gets bad when his own sources he uses is used against him as he did just recently and then ends up attacking my ethnic background as a defense. Its gotten out of hand and I started a RfC on him with many diff's on his attacks on users because they point out parts that are positive about Cuba. So now this is a second block concerning his actions on Cuba. --Scott Grayban 13:10, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks against Adam Carr

Your continued personal attacks against Adam Carr, such as "Growup", "your basing your edits on the pro-right-wing American politics and you totally ignore that", "Sorry your brain doesn't work on all levels of reasoning here but mine does", "your edits/comments/claims are very biased because you're using your Governments claims and posistion" on talk:Cuba are unnaceptable. Please refrain in the future. Xtra 14:05, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Pfft far from a personal attack and especially after he calls me a communist more than once and attacks my ethnic background. --Scott Grayban 14:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Even, if he did, that is no excuse for some of your comments and patronising tones. Xtra 14:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

If any of my actions on any personal attacks that you or any other admin see fit is a violation then block me. But if your siding with Adam because I have many valid reasons for my RfC on him then back off. I have proof that PMA who is a admin here has directly told Adam to be un-civil. That is enough there to have PMA removed as a admin here. I wont be threatened, insulted or dis-credited because of my RfC on him. --Scott Grayban 14:19, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

All I am saying is, consider your comments before you save the page. Xtra 14:24, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. I will be more carefull on what I say and provide factual content with sources. --Scott Grayban 14:28, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Scott, It is interesting to notice that this incivility was a back and forth process. If you do not respond, you break the cycle. Also, you have the right and duty to simply strike or modify the uncivil language to be more civil. That is something affirmative you can do to bring civility back to this place on Wikipedia. BruceHallman 16:13, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

First of all I tried to ignore his insults and name calling this last round. I even used the same resources he claims he users and I found information that he just left out of the human rights section. When I called him on it thats when he started his insulting and finally attacking my ethnic background and implying I'm some sort of nazi. I have been more then patient with him about all this. Alot of us including the moderators have asked him to stop the attacking. I don't even edit the article is fear that he will attack me for being a communist or fidelist and then have a revert war all over again. When does it end? Who ends it so that the article contains all information and not just selective negative info? I read the article and there is nothing on the positive side about Cuba at all. Nothing that even honours the ones in Cuba for fighting for human rights. Not one thing. Its so out of whack its not even funny anymore. Adam simply wants that article show all the negative there is about Cuba . I bet if he had his way that article would only say Cuba is run by a communist dictator and no one has any rights As it is there is zero credit to the activist for human rights or there accomplishments. That is just wrong. --Scott Grayban 16:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

And another thing. If I followed the WP:Civility#Removing_uncivil_comments that could also be taken as a violation of removing talk page comments which Adam would only use or try to use in his favour to draw the attention away from him as he done in the past. --Scott Grayban 16:33, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

And all this is just as frustrating when non other people involved with this and are the brunt end of Adam's attacks refuses to even stop him. It shows that no one wants a real WP:NPOV or wants it to drag out until there no energy left to dispute Adam and his force of POV. --Scott Grayban 16:40, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cuba

Please explain why you describe my contribution as "nonsense". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.108.37.36 (talk • contribs).

Well first off your an anon IP. Second those edits have been settled and sourced and third they reflect the same attitude and wording exactly those of Adam Carr so in light of that I reverted your copy-cat edits that Adam wants to impose on the article. --Scott Grayban 17:24, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

It appears that things have cooled off from a few hours ago. Nonetheless, I will keep an eye on things if they continue to get out of control. --Jay(Reply) 18:20, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering who the last comment you made on my talk page was directed at. --Jay(Reply) 19:10, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

User:172 --Scott Grayban 19:53, 23 April 2006 (UTC)