Talk:Sexual arousal
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[edit] Nipples
Hmmm, I have a little problem with "hardening of the nipples" being listed as a sign of female sexual arousal. Seems to me this is a pretty widespread myth, one which might explain why men seem so obsessed with the phenomenon. In my experience, nipple hardening is very easy to bring about, just by touching, or exposure to cold, etc. This does not indicate that the female is sexually aroused. In fact, given the function of nipples, it seems unlikely. Since a baby suckling causes nipple erection, seems to me that it has far more to do with its milk delivery function, i.e. forming a firm nozzle, than anything to do with sex. In addition, male nipples become erect by much the same token, and I'm sure most men would agree that sexual arousal doesn't follow from that. Conversely, I have been in the presence of women who were sexually aroused, whose nipples remained resolutely un-erect in the absence of stimulation. I'm not saying that nipple play doesn't have a role in sex, clearly it does, but I dispute that it is per se an indication of arousal. Such stuff probably should remain in the minds of smut-obsessed schoolboys, and not become a "fact" stated in an encyclopaedia. Discuss. Graham 01:46, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I'm halfway with you. It isn't a per se but rather the reverse.... sexual arousal is one possible cause for nipple hardening. Different women have differing amounts of a sexual flush; some women have almost none, some have quite a large flush over much of their chest, neck and face. - UtherSRG 01:52, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
[edit] More external links
More external links may improve this article. Try want Wikipedia to appear Chauvinistic in it's aproach to sexual arousal. I don't have access to a vagina at the moment, but I plan on being around some this weekend. However, that might not work out. I guess what i'm trying to say is that I might not be able to add a picture of a moist vaginia to this article, so if someone else has access to one and could snap a picture, that would be great. Thanks.Jonesjim5 02:19, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pics
I for one am tired of people trying to put penis images on every page where they might get away with it. "I could take a picture of my boner" does not indicate a serious, mature contributor, in my opinion. Evercat 13:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- I am serious and mature. I didn't know the correct term for it, as I only learned English through friends and they always called it a boner. Please do not look down upon me or my additions to Wikipedia because I am a non-native English speaker. The picture of the boner adds something to the article that it didn't have before: a picture. One of the things that seperates the Wikipedia from a traditional reference book is that Wikipedia is more multi-media. We are not limited by sapce or size constrants as far as pictures go. Why shouldn't every article have an appropriate picture to go along with it? Some people learn well by reading, while others learn well with pictures. If any reader has a question about Sexual Arousal, the picture I added (and soon the picture of the moist vaginia) will hopefully answer it. Also, when readers think about Sexual Arousal, the pictures will equip them with a visual reference. Also, this might help rape-victims. After reading this article girls will realise that if a man is coming at them with a boner that looks like the one on the right, he is sexually aroused. This could prevent the rape of many young women who that would be the first time they experienced an aroused boner. Thank you. Jonesjim5 17:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
"This could prevent the rape of many young women". I still don't think you're serious. Evercat 19:07, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Not every page about sex has to have a picture of a penis just because it can. I think this attitude is at least a little childish. Evercat 23:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Due to your constant use of ad hominem attacks, your constant revertion of this article, and your general dislike for me, I have reverted this back to the original. Your arguements against the picture in this article seem to stem from the fact that I, as the one responsible for its adition, have a non-'serious attitude' and you even claim that I am 'a little childish.' Your main arguements have nothing at all to do with the article itself, but instead you constantly rely on unjust characterizations of my attitude for an excuse to revert my additions. This is severe anti-social behavoir leading me to question weather or not you are a vandal trying to disguise your page vandalism under the guise of a legitamate issue. If this issue continues, I am unafraid to contact Jimmy Wales and have him set the issue straight once and for all. Thank you. Jonesjim5 22:45, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Evercat. I dont think you need a big picture of someone's erect penis. I think it's completely inappropriate because many children access these articles. You could at least have a scientific picture, not some home-made porn picture. I think it's obscene and should be removed. You could even add a link to a scientific picture, instead of this.
There needs to be a photographic example. Just keep it clean,no fluids,or maybe it should only be half-erect instead of at the orgasmic stage of the process.
[edit] Causes of human sexual arousal
This category is too vast to warrant shortlisting, which by nature would have to be subjective; better refer it to sexual arousal, attraction, or whatever the link is below it, or risk sounding silly grendel's mother 11:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Please edit it to improve it. As is, it is imperfect, but an attempt to help others understand. Removing it entirely because it isn't comprehensive doesn't seem like the right approach to me.
Okay but you open a big barrel of fish: how long can this list be? Where's the line between the present no. 1 and no. 2? Is foreplay, masturbation, and especially exhibitionism primarily a cause of human arousal or a result of it? Why is roleplaying there but another arousing fetish not? Is not one of the major instigators of arousal alcohol and drugs (in cultures that use them)? Now, don't you think it's best to redirect it all to sexual attraction to avoid circulating fragmentary musings on the matter?--grendel's mother 14:49, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- For that matter (and sorry to wax on about this but it's stuck in my head now), are there any non-humans reading this? Is it here to give asexuals a gist of the topic? The "causes" section is something that either a) needs not be covered at all because it is self-evident and entirely subjective, or b) sould be covered extensively to encompass everything. I'm for b) but I don't feel like having my wife catch me writing it. Leaving it like this is trite, like a section on "Why people eat" listing - they are hungry, they see something that looks appetising, they are trying to get their children to eat... and a full-stop after it grendel's mother 15:13, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removed claim
I've removed the following:
- "Scientific data shows that male circumcision may cause neurological changes in the human brain, which is suggested to lower sexual excitability (Mackey, 1997), due to decreased sensitivity (as a result of keratinization of the surface of the glans penis). This is contested [1]"
My reasons? Firstly, the source cited didn't actually present any data, but merely claimed that it existed. Secondly, having searched far and wide, I've located only one study to investigate keratinisation. It found that the glans of circumcised and uncircumcised men are equally keratinised. I'm aware of only three studies to investigate sensitivity: again, these found no difference.
The text would need to be heavily rewritten to accurately reflect all this while conforming to NPOV and NOR. My feeling is that it's better left out of the article. Jakew 16:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
