Talk:Sexual Personae
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[edit] neutrality violation?
"Throwing in her lot with Hobbes and Dionysus, she follows in the tradition of a work like Nietzsche's The Birth of Tragedy, where engaging assertion and overstatement are more important than rigorously proving a case. She argues passionately, with poetic flair: for her, human sexuality is dark, cruel, sadistic, powerful, daemonic, perverse, murky, decadent, pagan..." Has anyone here ever heard of POV? I haven't read the book, I can't improve this, but this comes right out and says "this book does not make a good argument" which is unacceptable for a wikipedia article. unixslug 23:39, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've heard of NPOV, and I'll look into toning down that particular collection of rhetorical flourishes, if it bothers you, but what do you *want* me to say? You want me to lie about what kind of book it is, to make it sound acceptable to talk about it here? Paglia is a pretty well-known personage, and this particular book is what put her on the scene, so I volunteered to try and describe what kind of book it is. And the kind of book it is is somewhere between a scholarly treatise and a piece of prose poetry; there's no way around the fact that it's pretty over-the-top, which is what I'm trying to make clear, it's one of the reasons it was controversial. -- Doom 09:44, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
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- I disagree that the above quotation can be seen as saying "this book does not make a good argument" or that it is in any way a npov violation. Its just a characterization of the style of the work, and if she didn't intend to make "good arguments" per se, how is it pov to point out that intent? Are you sure you didn't just read your own interpretation into the quote? --Head of the Caligula Appreciation Society 00:58, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
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- I think it's as neutral as can be when we're discussing Camille Paglia. Also, perhaps something could be made of her links to Harold Bloom and his own style. The two have much in common, because for both the dry, desiccated academic mode is pretty much anathema; also why "Anxiety of Influence" and "Sexual Personae" are so difficult/problematic for many to read. Personally and aside from NPOV, I enjoy both their styles. Makes them far more engaging, and the are probably two of the better readers of poetry we have on this godforsaken earth right now. Fugazilazarus 01:45, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Delete and replace!
This "article" should be deleted and replaced with one that does justice to Paglia's book. This is just an incompetent review posing as scholarship.
